http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_elimination

/me is confused.

Double Elim = "lose twice and you're out"

In a pure double elim, the ultimate winner is determined as Nerde said.

my 2c from 20 years' chess competition

From that link Softy, Cunjo is doing everything roughly the same, except for the fact that when you lose in the first bracket, you should basically only drop into the same round in the second bracket. Cunjo has just been filling up the first round of the second bracket regardless of where the person made it to in the first. He should have been only filling up one half of each of the first round/second bracket matchups, so that whoever advanced from there would then meet the loser of the second round/first bracker matchups!

_Gavan_______
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_Jefferson_C_|.........................|
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_Mr Spuck____.......................|
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_Ghost_______|

_*Left Open*_
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_*Left Open*_.........................|
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_Jefferson_C_.......................|
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_Ghost_______|

Ok so that's ugly. But it gets my point across I guess.

Edit: Nope, nm, its ugly

It still makes sense, though, Gavan.

... so yes, Cunjo did it wrong, but it's a bit too late now to change it.

Oh yeah, sorry.... I wasn't meaning that it didn't work. I was just trying to clarify things for softy.... then I got a little carried away with the text drawing :)

Yes, I am aware of how a traditional double elimination works, and I am aware that this tournament uses a nonstandard and simplified version of the bracket - it was intended. I thought I clarified that rather explicitly early on, since a 'correct' double elim would have become nothing but an immense pain in the ass considering the iregular number of entrants in each class as well as the drop-out rate of said entrants due to difficulties in scheduling game-time.

If people want to add a two-set final match between the winner of the first and second elimination brackets, then I'll add it, but the initial idea was to modify it so that to earn the title, someone would be undefeated in the first bracket, and defeated only once for Second place.

If people want it changed so the first and second bracket winners meet up again in the final match, then we'll change it.

I think they should meet at the end and fight for the title. Think about it. The undefeated pilot should be able to beat the defeated player, if they are that good.PLus, it also eliminates the chance that somehow they did not meet in the first bracket.

Hey Cunjo, you slimy dog, this is pretty freakin' amazing work here. But I agree with the earlier sentiments about the 1-loss bracker champion duking it out with the undefeated champion. Got to have room for dramatic comebacks!!!! woot!!!!

O.. and say hi to my dearest Cho if you see her in game will ya? Thanks ;)

Tamion Le Chatelier

Alright, we'll run a final double match between the winners of each bracket - TDE with the winer of the second bracket needing to eliminat the winner of the first bracket twice.

New Additions to the KnockList - See Here

All Divisions are now CLOSED to new entrants.

The following matches are next:

In the Lightweight Division: Hortan VS LeberMac OR Redlac - winner VS Shape - winner VS Gavan

For the Second-Elim: Nerde Verde VS Surbius

In the Heavyweight Division: Borb VS Gavan, Mick VS Ayn OR CygnusX, Primus VS CrazySpence OR sapo_sk VS either/or

For the Second-Elim: Spaceranger VS Proximity - winner VS Jefferson Clay

In the Super Heavyweight Division: sapo_sk VS Blue Streak, Nautargos VS JBE Zorg - winner VS Cunjo - winner VS Blue Streak, fooz VS Euphoriac

For the Second-Elim: Surbius VS Borb

In the Prometheus Division: Calder VS Shedu - winner VS Nautargos - winner VS Matriarch

In the Valkyrie Division: Aequitas VS Euphoriac OR Ghost

For the Second-Elim and 500Kc: Genotype VS LeberMac

ALL COMBATANTS: REGISTER YOUR TIMES HERE If you haven't already, and arrange matches.

Entree fees are still needed from: Primus (100k), Euphoriac (200k), CrazySpence (100k) and Calder (100k).

Tables ahve been updated. Refresh (first) page to see them.

In Tournament News this week:

Nautargos forfeits the tournament, advancing Zorg in Superheavy. Cunjo then defeats Zorg and Blue Streak, advancing to the semifinals.

In the valkyrie class, Euphoriac is late in scheduling and gets knocked, advancing Aequitas, who is then defeated by Ghost, who advances to the finals.

Euphoriac is removed from the knocklist after posting scheduling times and paying the entry fee, and will have an even-odds match with Ghost in the finals if they make it through the S-E bracket.

NEW ADDITIONS TO THE KNOCKLIST: SEE HERE

The following matches are next (with High-priority matches in bold):

In the Lightweight Division: Hortan VS LeberMac OR Redlac - winner VS Shape - winner VS Gavan

For the Second-Elim: Nerde Verde VS Surbius

In the Heavyweight Division: Borb VS Gavan, Mick VS Ayn OR CygnusX, Primus VS CrazySpence OR sapo_sk VS either/or

For the Second-Elim: Spaceranger VS Proximity OR Jefferson Clay VS either/or

In the Super Heavyweight Division: fooz2916 VS Euphoriac - winner VS Cunjo

For the Second-Elim: Borb VS Surbius, Shedu VS JBE Zorg, sapo_sk VS Blue Streak

In the Prometheus Division: Calder VS Shedu - winner VS Matriarch

In the Valkyrie Division for Second-Elim: Genotype VS LeberMac, Blue Streak VS Euphoriac

A Reminder to Calder, Primus and Crazyspence I still need your 100k entry fees for you to compete.

ALL COMBATANTS: REGISTER YOUR TIMES HERE If you haven't already, and arrange matches.

Hey Cunjo, this thing still happening? Let's finish this one proper-like.

Aye, don't let it die out!

Sorry for the absense... I'll try to get this tournament finished up, as long as people manage to show for their matches. I might not be able to update as regularily as before though, unfortunately, so I guess you'll need to take some initiative and keep track of where it's at to get those matches in.

I want my money back.

Haha, you're not escaping that easily Gav

I don't want to escape, I'd love to finish it. But at this rate it's going to be done sometime next year.

I have tomorrow off, so I can get the ball rolling again and throw some more knocks... hopefully we can get Light and Superheavy finished this week.

Shape:

I'd like to. But I haven't seen Calder on at all recently.

Whoa, totally forgot about this and didn't see Euphoric's post.

Unfortunately, I'm going to be out of town for the next week. If it's urgent that the Super-Heavy gets finished, I'll withdraw if you refund my entry fee.

However, I may be available today for a few hours or more after 1800 GMT. Send a message over AIM or G-Talk (same name).

ill try to be online this weekend