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Allow sale of accounts through VO Website

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Oct 22, 2015 greenwall link
-Guild Software takes a 30% cut of any sale.

-1 year subscription required to be paid in addition to the negotiated account price, per account

-A way to verify inventory, levels and credits would need to be established to verify accounts.
Oct 22, 2015 TheRedSpy link
It's a massive can of worms and it doesn't stop private sale.

Whyyyyyyy
Oct 22, 2015 bojansplash link
Some other games had serious issues with players selling accounts privately and, at the end, all of them made selling accounts a lifetime ban offense.

As TRS pointed out - this is a can of worms you do not want to open.
Oct 22, 2015 Kierky link
Lol. Feeling undervalued, Greenwall? Lulz.
Oct 22, 2015 greenwall link
It's not intended to stop private sales (as if any actually happen anyhow?).

This is geared towards vets who want something more to do in the game and/or want to contribute monetarily to Guild Software. One could simply spend time levelling up new accounts and then offer them for people who want a "head start", all in exchange for a little cash.

There's been plenty of requests for another crowdfunding or microfunding specific issues -- we all know GS needs more money.

The only complex part is authenticating the transaction, which I am imagining could have the development costs covered by the money it generates.

How else is it a can of worms?
Oct 23, 2015 joylessjoker link
One could simply spend time levelling up new accounts and then offer them for people who want a "head start", all in exchange for a little cash.

Oh my goodness. What an abhorrent, appalling, atrocious, awful, dangerous, disgusting, disturbing, dreadful, frightful, ghastly, horrendous, horrid, offensive, repulsive, revolting, shocking, terrible, unnerving, and VILE idea you have.

Yes GS needs more cash, but there are far better, more ethical ways to become richer. There is a reason you NEVER see any other game do this.
Oct 23, 2015 Roda Slane link
@greenwall:

-1 because there is not enough money on the table to be worth the dev time.

This is what brokers are for. Two people that want to conduct a transaction find a third party that they both trust. The broker takes possession of the traded items, verifies that all terms are met, and then transfers the items to the respective parties.

Transfer of VO property is subject to VO EULA. You can not "sell" VO property, because it does not belong to you. It belongs to GS. You can "transfer possession of" VO property, from one character, to another character. You can charge real life money for the "transfer of possession".

I would act as a broker, or as a producer, if there was enough cash in it to make it worth my while. For example, I could "transfer possession of" a level 4/4/4/4/4 account for about $20.

But I just do not see how, with the current player population, there is sufficient market to make this of economic interest to the devs.
Oct 23, 2015 greenwall link
@Roda

Of course what I'm talking about is transferring of possession. Word it however you want. And certainly if indeed there aren't enough indicators to suggest that it would generate enough income to be profitable there is no reason to do it.

It might be something that would be good to do alongside the STEAM release (if it ever happens)... where we have a larger influx of newbs that are hungry to move ahead in the game.

@joyless

If you didn't copy and paste your thesaurus search verbatim I might have granted you with a response other than: lulz. Stick to memes, since you clearly struggle with words.
Oct 23, 2015 Roda Slane link
@greenwall:

Their are markets to lead in, and markets to follow. For GS, this would be a market to follow. You lead, and if you demonstrate there is money in it, GS can follow.
Oct 23, 2015 joylessjoker link
Clearly you struggle with thinking of a creative response if "stick to memes" is all you can come up with in your last 10 posts to me.

Actually, don't even bother trying. I like it better when your responses reflect the real you. True colors and all. *wink*
Oct 23, 2015 greenwall link
Joyless, if you are so unhappy with the quality of my responses to you, you should consider increasing the quality of your comments to which I am responding. Continue to be an idiot and you shall continue to be treated as one.
Oct 23, 2015 joylessjoker link
My dear greenwall, that's all your own skewed perspective. Of course, I forgive you for considering me an idiot.
Oct 23, 2015 greenwall link
Attributing a commonly held perpsective the term "skewed" indicates further that you are an idiot. Believe it or not, some people try to have productive discussions here and don't appreciate your assinine input.
Oct 23, 2015 joylessjoker link
"commonly held" - you want to support that claim in some way? Thus far I only see you, you alone reacting rather explosively to my posts.
Oct 26, 2015 Pizzasgood link
-1. Selling accounts is something to be discouraged and penalized, not encouraged and monetized. Remember how disgusted people were at the idea of artificially inflating PK stats? Most of us do not like the idea of people running around with stats they did not earn themselves. That is not appropriate behavior. In-game achievements should not be commodities to be sold.
Oct 26, 2015 Ore link
- nope. This is seven kinds of stupid.
Oct 26, 2015 Roda Slane link
The suggestion is for GS to formalize the transfer of accounts. You can voice your opinion on that suggestion.

There is nothing preventing non formal transfer of accounts. Your opinion does not matter. You have no say in the matter.

Voicing an opinion to not formalize the transfer accounts, will not prevent the transfer of accounts. At best, it will keep it out of your eye sight, so that you can pretend it does not happen.

I prefer to know what is going on, rather than just trying to sweep it all under the rug.

I will transfer possession of accounts, for rl cash, and I would like to know what you think can be done to prevent it.
Oct 26, 2015 Dr. Lecter link
I will transfer possession of accounts, for rl cash, and I would like to know what you think can be done to prevent it.

Dunno, maybe delete accounts where a pattern of the same player/payer opening them and later different players/payers take over is detected? Likely not worth Dev time, and VO's hardly popular enough to make it a viable business, but certainly an option to crush anyone who wanted to do on a substantial scale.
Oct 26, 2015 greenwall link
Most people would feel much more comfortable spending money on a formal transfer than an informal one.
Oct 26, 2015 Ore link
1. I'm pretty sure this goes against the EULA.
2. I do not want someone who was in my guild to sell their account to some noob or dipshit that I do t want in my guild.

How can I tell Roda? I talk to the members of my guild. If my esteemed colleague A-dawg starts talking with an Aussie accent then something is wrong.