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Jan 22, 2013 DentedHead link
" it's quite common for people to get really excited about physical knick-knack items and posters and things."

Just an (mostly) unrelated thought this comment inspired. I love knick-knacks. If GS got themselves a 3d printer (or just access to one) and knocked up some lil' models of the ships, I'd be all over those, and I doubt I'm alone there. There's plenty of wargaming miniatures companies could cast them in resin, which is easy to do (I've done it in my kitchen, just on a smaller scale), then just add them to the merch store.

Dent.
Jan 22, 2013 incarnate link
Do you mind if I hijack this thread for a f2p/microtransaction discussion not involving the "Lite" subscription inc? or would you rather I create a new thread :p

That's probably better in a new thread. This one is getting pretty deep as it is.

Knick-knacks, 3D printed ships

Yeah, we've considered that. It's definitely something we'll continue to look at. However, making and shipping our own merch is a big time-sink, and time is the one thing we don't have much of. But I'm keeping an eye out on various build-to-order outfits who are economical.

I've actually priced a few in the past (places that do really nice work, the sort used by Blizzard and Bungie), and they've been *quite* expensive. But I think prices are coming down a lot now thanks to the commoditization of 3D printing.

Anyway, that's all pretty far afield from the "Lite" subscription, let's get back on topic..
Jan 22, 2013 TCrusader20 link
@Inc

Okay sounds good. I'll wait a while to post my grand scheme for the f2p addition to the game, maybe like a month or 2, because I know you mentioned that you'd rather get into that area a bit more slowly :)
Jan 23, 2013 incarnate link
Well, don't feel you need to hold off for my benefit. There's nothing wrong with having a discussion at any time. We probably will give this "Lite" thing a try first, but this forum is all about discussing possibilities, after all.
Jan 27, 2013 Mick the Mighty link
Just my two cents, before inflation, taxes, and management/handling fees.

The lite version should be something like two hours for 99 cents, or something like that. Then after they spent $12 or more within 20 days they get converted to a unlimited gametime for the rest of a 30 day period (10 or more days of free play time). This way you don't have to worry about caps on items and skill levels, and how do you handle someone switching between lite and full as funds permits.

Another option tjat I don't like is wiat until you release version 2.0 At that point the lite subscription gets access to the current universe while full subscribers get not only the original but the expanded version as well.

The third idea I like even less, restrict the lites to their home station once they leave training.

Again, just my opinions and ideas. If someone else already posted these ideas then I second them. After reading the first page, and feeling like I was caught between lawyers arguing about punctuation, I skipped to this last page.
Jan 31, 2013 tarenty link
This has been released... any specifics, devs?
Feb 01, 2013 incarnate link
It's $0.99/month, cannot create guilds, and set to 3/3/3/3/3 right now. but we've been emphasizing trying to get it out the door more than any tweaking to the model as of yet. And I'm mostly still off in Kickstarter-land.
Feb 01, 2013 tarenty link
Cool, those were the only details I was looking for.
Feb 01, 2013 ppurdham link
can I get a light sub without going to the play store as I have a sideload
Feb 04, 2013 mowgli525i link
Regarding this Lite initiative, i would like to congratulate and thank the devs for implementing such an idea.It's certainly the option for me at this point as i'm not yet willing to pay out almost as much as i would for an EVE online subscription, which i don't anymore. It's not like 10$ is a fortune or anything, others pay tenths of times that just to get a gun in a game or some gold coins to spend in a game with a gameplay of 8 hours. However, 10$ is something to a country, and completely something else to another. What i mean is that in some countries the medium wager is 4000$ while in others is 300$, so to some people 10$ is worth a lot. The main reason why i bring this up is that i keep hearing people dissing others for not being willing to pay but for most it's not a case of "willing" but of "being able".
So all in all, this Lite subscription option is a very good idea and i would like to still have it in the future, because the high subscription rate pushed me away from EVE so i'll give VO a try.
Feb 10, 2013 csgno1 link
Now that this lite subscription is a reality I've thought of a question about how it's intended to be used. Specifically I'm working on a Trident and I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to use it when it's done. I've seen Conflict Diamond in-game with The Compass Rose which is her Trident. I thought it was a brilliant idea to give it a real ship's name. I'd also like to be able to have my regular character in-game at the same time as my Trident. If I'm paying $10/mo to play it seems reasonable to pay an additional $1 per month to run my trident on the lite subscription but I don't know if the lite subscription allows this, and if it does will it continue to be allowed by the devs when this practice becomes wide-spread as I believe it would. My opinion is that they would like me to pay $11 per month instead of $10 but I don't know if they see it that way. If possible I'd like to know before I move my character to another account.
Feb 27, 2013 Ishis Sal link
I'm a new player, and I'm planning on playing mainly on Android for the forseeable future. Ttried the lite subscription, and I have to honestly say 3/across is not the greatest. I think 4/across would be good. Gives access to centaurs so players start to get a feel of what higher capacity trading is like,how awesome it is to have two mining beam mk2's, and the beginning of some good weapons. I ended up canceling the $1 recurring subscription and went for the $10 non-recurring (ate the dollar, meh). I'd go to the regular subscription if I can get more time on a regular laptop/pc, and I think the lite subscription is a great idea, but I think going to 4/ will let the ppl do more and "hook" 'em in easier. ;)
Feb 27, 2013 jharder0002 link
not trying to revive an old thread... but as i will be playing the game solely on an android transformer, id like to throw in my 2 cents. Id be more than happy to pay for the game. My issue is with the price. Ive just finished my 8 hour trial and more than likely am going to buy lite subscription cause i dont feel like i have gotten the full experience that this game has to offer thus far. But for 10 dollars for a full subscription, a lite one is as far is i will probably go. For that price I feel my money would be better off spent on a more "developed" MMORPG experience. (not trying to insult anyone at all, i could never hace accomplished what the developers of this game have done.)
Again, I would be playing this game solely on an android device, and im sure there are others who would like to do so as well... but are turned off by the price. If you were willing to lowe a script to $5 a month, id be more than happy to throw my money in your direction. Just my thoughts.
Feb 27, 2013 Dr. Lecter link
lol@"That extra $5/month is just a dealbreaker for me!"

Can't you get a basic Taur at Corvus with 3/3/3/3/3?
Feb 27, 2013 LMAO link
YES, iirc its 2/2/2/2/0 at any corvus station and that gets you a fast cell also
Feb 28, 2013 abortretryfail link
And a Ragnarok... and a Corvus Vulturius...
Feb 28, 2013 DE-1414h link
In terms of time, for many new players, level 3/3/3/3/3 is closer than a Corvus station. You and I know how to game the system. But most noobs don't.

In theory you can do a lot of things with a $1 sub. I haven't tested it, but you may be able to buy a tungmaud, and perhaps even a BHM. If this is true, then the $1 sub could be quite capable, once it is properly developed.
Feb 28, 2013 LMAO link
Mineral Mining Tunguska 920 -/-/-/-/2 the faction standing would be hard to get with only a atlas.

Heavy Miner Mining - - -/-/-/1/2

but thats a lot of trips of mining and selling ore for the heavy miner 15k ore mined and sold for the Basic Miner badge 2.

but yea it could be done
Mar 04, 2013 Lord~spidey link
imho make the "lite" sub free.
Mar 04, 2013 DE-1414h link
idiot. the trial is free. the lite sub is a sub. if it was free, it wouldn't be called a sub. and further, if you make the lite sub free, what are you going to charge $1 for? the whole point of the lite sub was to collect at least $1 from mobile players. nice of you to volunteer to give that away on behalf of the devs.

if you really feel strongly that the $1 sub should be free, send me some cash. I will rake off %5, and spend the rest on providing free $1 subs to newbs on a first come first serve basis, limit of one month per user per month, until funds are depleted. otherwise, how about you stop speaking for other people's money?

there will always be someone that has an issue with the price. hell! i have an issue with the price! it cost money! it just isn't worth it to every one to pay $10 a month. but it isn't worth it to the devs to give it away either. until you are backing your ideas with your own cash, how about letting the devs make the financial decision?