It's a bomber, not a fighter to be used against other players. I support leaving it at 190.

If you want to swarm people with that extra port, you've gotta sacrifice. :d

I honestly don't care about turrets. However, +1.

Devs do this already!

A top speed of 190 is only practical if you have a gunner. Even when fighting npcs it would be difficult to escape the enemy with a ship that slow. Most people will not have a gunner on this ship.

Real world bombers go just as fast as fighters, though maybe it takes them a bit longer to get up to speed and their maneuvering is more sluggish. I see no reason to further nerf a bombers speed, other than to appease those who don't like swarms.

+1

Maybe if we keep this up top it will happen.;)

Yeah bumpity bump!

We can control our own turrets now! That makes this ship even cooler!

C'mon devs. :D

New ship new ship give us a new ship!

almost a year later, and still bumping

/bump!

I hope this or something like this is one of the "new ships" that are supposedly going to be added Soon™

Dear devs,
If you give me a copy of the game's configuration for the Ragnarok MkIII and Behemoth, I'll figure out how to combine those two into this ship and you can add it on the test server. It'll be the first PCC-created ship variant. :P

Doesn't need any new art assets or collision hulls or anything!

What a great idea!

Lol.full of bs.As far as the "this is ineffective without turret gunners" we all know it will be used solo with the binds to auto target and autoshoot the missiles at the enemies. Even more noobs dumbfiring rockets in b8 and jumping to d14 again and again is the last thing we need.

And when you get buddies to man the turrets its going to get overpowered all over the place with an endless list of possible game breaking combinations. Youre all thinking now how fun it will be for you but remember that everyone will be in this. Im not against a turret boat but taking a very good and very often used ship which is the best at what it does and improving it to extremes is not a good idea. Sure you dropped a few numbers here and there but nothing that outweighs the benefits youre suggesting that it should receive. Make another suggestion for a new ship instead, and not so overpowered.The rag is the best solo bomber, and id personally welcome a suggestion for the best team bomber.

But that raises another problem.A good team boat diminishes the usefulness of Dents.Nobody will spend half a year building a repair/restock ship.

Yeah, Shatterdome... that's why the Behemoth is such an overpowered game-breaking death machine right now...

Well if the Rag suggested is the same as the behemoth then all is good.You got the bomber you asked for.

No, I'm pointing out how ridiculous your claims about OP turrets are. The Behemoth is not a bomber.

It depends what ship the turrets are on.I didnt say anything with turrets on it is OP.A perfectly good ship receiving a few minor nerfs which people like you wont even notice and receiving an L port and turrets is not a behemoth. Maybe we should throw a few turrets onto the SkyProm?

I don't really get what you're complaining about, Shatterdome. It takes 8 seconds to fire enough Gemini Missiles off a turret to kill a vulture, That's assuming the vulture is standing perfectly still and doesn't bounce around when hit causing the missiles to miss.

We don't have any turret weapons that are really "game breaking"

The NPCs on the other hand...

8 seconds to kill a vulture? Half that with 2 gems, and throw in 3 chaos swarms. Thats one shot. If you can only hit vultures while theyre standing still then dont comment here. 3L ports of chaos swarms either completely conceals the gems or leaves no room to avoid them. Same for anything else firing from turrets.

Stop only mentioning the turrets, the third L port is crazy. The possibilities of other setups are frightening, and the ability to get the 3L ports to where theyre needed easily with pillow guns or blaster fire keeping people away from touching it would just rape NW.