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Arrr, ended up with my original option, working good so far.
It came with a Norton anti virus 60 day trial (Is Norton really that bad?).
Should I wait till the trial runs out to install something else or should I just remove it from my computer and get something else asap?
Btw Cunjo, I'm thinking about getting Kaspersky. Is it really worth it? And how complicated is it to use?
It came with a Norton anti virus 60 day trial (Is Norton really that bad?).
Should I wait till the trial runs out to install something else or should I just remove it from my computer and get something else asap?
Btw Cunjo, I'm thinking about getting Kaspersky. Is it really worth it? And how complicated is it to use?
I'd go with the 'get something else ASAP'... but I just hate Norton Internet Security. Others might disagree.
This is my most used symantec product Norton Removal Tool - do not simply uninstall Norton, use their removal tool, as unistalation leaves bits behind that can actually interfere with other AV products. A good (and free) anti viri app is Avast! - It comes with a boot time scanner, so in the event that you do get infected, you have more of a chance of removing the viri.
We had lots of problem with a Pavilion DV6000 motherboard fried twice and we paied 500 bucks for the repair the first time and we sold it the second time, however my uncle had the same model and has had it for 3 years and he hasn't had any problems with it. same with a few other people i know use them.
So far i haven't seen any hp machines in the shop (at my job) with any hardware problems.
HP is good but if something breaks yer gonna pay through the nose for it :P just hope yer still covered.
So far i haven't seen any hp machines in the shop (at my job) with any hardware problems.
HP is good but if something breaks yer gonna pay through the nose for it :P just hope yer still covered.
I'm with chewie. Kill norton with fire.
Kaspersky, like most reasonably AVs, has a 30-day free trial. Put it to good use, then decide if you want to buy. I recommend the full suite over just the AV, since it gives you more options, and includes a really effective application policy manager.
On the subject of computers though, you could always Buy mine. Guaranteed to outrun the PPoSs when obsolescence comes a chasin'.
Kaspersky, like most reasonably AVs, has a 30-day free trial. Put it to good use, then decide if you want to buy. I recommend the full suite over just the AV, since it gives you more options, and includes a really effective application policy manager.
On the subject of computers though, you could always Buy mine. Guaranteed to outrun the PPoSs when obsolescence comes a chasin'.
Meh, avast? Kaspersky?
AVG Free 8.0 ftw
barring that, ClamAV.
Oh, and Norton is awful.. There are, in fact, multiple virii that can not only sneak by it (even years later, with a fresh virus DB) but they can even disable norton to the point where you can't even uninstall it, even with the removal tool.. thereby preventing you from installing many other AVs (since quite a few of them will fail to install, saying "Please remove Norton AV and try again")
AVG Free 8.0 ftw
barring that, ClamAV.
Oh, and Norton is awful.. There are, in fact, multiple virii that can not only sneak by it (even years later, with a fresh virus DB) but they can even disable norton to the point where you can't even uninstall it, even with the removal tool.. thereby preventing you from installing many other AVs (since quite a few of them will fail to install, saying "Please remove Norton AV and try again")
Break19:
If norton is that fubar, you can always remove what's left of it manually, use a tool like regcleanr to nuke the registry entries, and repair/reinstall Security Center... barring that, repair Windows.
It very seldom happens, though... as long as you attempt to remove it first via uninstaller (and kill the installer entry if it fails), the removal tool should take care of the rest.
I personally really don't like AVG. I still install it for a lot of clients, because it's simple, and most of them are too dumb to break it. It just never stops anything of consequence... people still come in a week later, re-infected with Antivirus 09 or something like that, because AVG can't defend itself or the PC from such threats.
Avast is decent, but only marginally better than AVG, and it requires 2 brain cells to configure, and occasionally update/scan.
Kaspersky is good, IMO, as is NOD32... but both of those are designed for people who have 3 or more brain cells.
If it's you asking for yourself, you should be fine. If you're asking for another user you want to install it for, the following query should outline things pretty well:
> SELECT * FROM 'users' WHERE clue > 0;
0 rows returned
http://virustotal.com
If norton is that fubar, you can always remove what's left of it manually, use a tool like regcleanr to nuke the registry entries, and repair/reinstall Security Center... barring that, repair Windows.
It very seldom happens, though... as long as you attempt to remove it first via uninstaller (and kill the installer entry if it fails), the removal tool should take care of the rest.
I personally really don't like AVG. I still install it for a lot of clients, because it's simple, and most of them are too dumb to break it. It just never stops anything of consequence... people still come in a week later, re-infected with Antivirus 09 or something like that, because AVG can't defend itself or the PC from such threats.
Avast is decent, but only marginally better than AVG, and it requires 2 brain cells to configure, and occasionally update/scan.
Kaspersky is good, IMO, as is NOD32... but both of those are designed for people who have 3 or more brain cells.
If it's you asking for yourself, you should be fine. If you're asking for another user you want to install it for, the following query should outline things pretty well:
> SELECT * FROM 'users' WHERE clue > 0;
0 rows returned
http://virustotal.com
Okay.
I exorcised Norton and installed Kaspersky. Dunno what you mean about Kaspersky being complicated to use. I just installed it and thats all I did, it hasnt asked me to do anything else.
The only bad/annoying thing about it is that it keeps telling me my computer might be at risk because I'm only using the trial and to solve it I should buy the subscription right away. Heh...
I exorcised Norton and installed Kaspersky. Dunno what you mean about Kaspersky being complicated to use. I just installed it and thats all I did, it hasnt asked me to do anything else.
The only bad/annoying thing about it is that it keeps telling me my computer might be at risk because I'm only using the trial and to solve it I should buy the subscription right away. Heh...
I've used AVG since like.. version 5.0 or something.. Never had any infections... I've also used it's rescue disks to remove infections from my sister's machine running Norton (updated regularly with liveupdate, and she had a dozen virii on her machine, admittedly, this was a few years ago now)
As far as protecting from "stupid people" goes, AVG free is an anti-virus program, not a "hey dumbass, dont install that" program..
Besides that however, it does protect just fine from those types of threats if you have the AVG Internet Security version.. I just use a DD-WRT router, and common sense..
break19
EZR
edit: On another note, my mother SWEARS by Panda AV. and I have to agree, for a paid AV product, it's very sharp, and as best as I can tell, uses minimal resources compared to other AVs and works like a champ.
As far as protecting from "stupid people" goes, AVG free is an anti-virus program, not a "hey dumbass, dont install that" program..
Besides that however, it does protect just fine from those types of threats if you have the AVG Internet Security version.. I just use a DD-WRT router, and common sense..
break19
EZR
edit: On another note, my mother SWEARS by Panda AV. and I have to agree, for a paid AV product, it's very sharp, and as best as I can tell, uses minimal resources compared to other AVs and works like a champ.
Only reason I actually switched from AVG to Avast! is the boot time scan option. AVG _IS NOT_ Cleaning AV 2009 :) as the bugger disables ctrl+alt+del AND ctrl+shift+esc meaning ye cant kill the process (and nor can AVG) - I do agree that common sense is your best protection though :)
@ Spidey
HP Recalled a _lot_ of DV5000 DV6000 and DV9000's and will repair them under warrenty (even if out of warrenty) if they are of a ceratian model range, as a notebook parts supplier, I have to say that $500 is not tooo bad a price for just about any recentish laptop motherboard, you want to talk expesive? Go Sony Vaio, or Apple. (Yes, Apples do fail, and the parts are soooo high priced)
@ Spidey
HP Recalled a _lot_ of DV5000 DV6000 and DV9000's and will repair them under warrenty (even if out of warrenty) if they are of a ceratian model range, as a notebook parts supplier, I have to say that $500 is not tooo bad a price for just about any recentish laptop motherboard, you want to talk expesive? Go Sony Vaio, or Apple. (Yes, Apples do fail, and the parts are soooo high priced)
Here's the new thing I'm drooling over. Expensive? Yes. Worthwhile investment? Yes!
AVG -used- to offer a boot scan.. like 5.0 or 6.0 or something.. it was later removed, and I don't really remember their reasoning for doing so.