The Makchuga, CDC and TGFT are proud to bring you The Deneb Run this weekend.

*** The TIME will be 4PM Eastern Daylight Time, 7PM Pacific, 8PM Sunday GMT (Or 20:00) ***

*** Please take note of the two new/modified rules! ***

The race progress announcements will be announced on Channel 500

All citizens are welcome to race, there is no entrance fee, and 6 Million credits in prizes are available. Some of it could be yours!

Once again, the rules are:

1) Racers must race from Odia M14 through Deneb heading clockwise back to Odia M14.
2) Race starts in Odia M14 near the station.
3) There is a maximum eight-racer limit (seven if there is only one MC), or four racers per group. This is to allow the MCs to actually be able to MC the race and keep track of all the racers. Spots are first-come, first-served, with a priority on those who post to this thread. The group sizes may be increased if the MCs can handle it and there is enough interest on a given week. (new rule)
4) Contestants must be within 100m of the MC(s) before the start
5) No shooting before the race starts.
- Depending on the severity of the infraction, and at the host's (or hosts') discretion, violation of this rule can result in not only a disqualification for the current race, but also a ban from winning prize money as either a racer or an anti-racer in future Deneb Runs. (new rule extension)
6) You die and you're out (so no /exploding)
7) All weapons and ships allowed, except those listed in #10.
8) First person to get back and dock at Odia M14 wins the first prize. (3 million credits)
9) Second person back gets 2nd place prize (2 million credits)
10) Third person back gets 3rd place prize (1 million credits)
11) Valkyrie ships are not allowed.
12) Attempting to trigger a false start of the race is grounds for disqualification.
13) Money for killing other racers: Any pilot, racing or not, is eligible to earn money as follows:

Pre-condition #1: There must be at least 3 racers
Pre-condition #2: Less than 3 racers complete The Deneb Run
If the above pre-conditions are met, the undistributed prize money will be awarded to those who killed the racers as follows:
- Kills in the Odia M-14 sector are not eligible
- The most recent eligible kill earns the highest unawarded prize money (3 mil, 2 mil, 1 mil, or 0)
- The 2nd most recent eligible kill earns the 2nd highest unawarded prize money (2 mil, 1 mil, or 0)
- The 3rd most recent eligible kill earns the 3rd highest unawarded prize money (1 mil or 0)

Please reply to this thread if you intend to race.

This week's Deneb Run, as well as all future ones, are cancelled indefinitely due to the actions of a certain few assholes in the community.

I set aside two hours each week to run this event for the community. Those two hours are much better spent being used to finish my homework. If people decide to not show up to the race when it's scheduled, or be complete assholes, I wonder whether I'm wasting those two hours or not. Right now, I think they are being wasted.

So, I'm not going to bother guessing whether those two hours are going to be wasted anymore. Consider this event dead, unless there are going to be Guides that can be present to deal with this crap, or the people disrupting the event grow up.

Well, you *could* always move the start of the Deneb run *away* from the pirate capitol, and not to try claim it as *yours* for that event? I mean telling a pirate to *move on* when he's visiting the CAPITOL of pirates is a little silly mehairy.

Why not start in Dau instead or something, I mean sure, the Deneb run was started in Odia M-14, but it was started by a pirate...

...You aint a pirate in any shape or form, I never got how you got to run it anyways...

...Its a little pathetic on your part too, why not just arrange a gank squad, and start the event late? This has happened to nation wars over and over and over.

I support miharu's decision. I would not want to spend two hours each week on something that some people just wanna destroy. This is a really good event, and a long existing tradition in VO, and I am sorry to see it gone because of a few morons!

NP

A sad end for the longest running player driven event in this little, lonely game.

But, oh well, that's what you get when you keep insisting on an hands-off direction for your own game: the power void is filled by griefers.

It has been fun, while it lasted. Thanks Miharu for the countless hours of racing fun you gave to players who can still accept a social environment for their game.

I thought this game was called Vendetta-Online, not run around the Universe till yer blue in the face. Maybe you should be playing Race 07 instead.

Oh well, cya kitteh, and good luck!

Oh and maybe another host will step up, but maybe none of you old racers would take part anyways.

[edit]

Ya'll do realise Deneb run died a few times already? And Miharu Didn't start it, Martin.mac.au did? But he got bored of it too?

yoda:

I am (was) running the Deneb Run because Martin handed it off to Screwball and TGFT, who then handed it off to Erik and Joyce when Screwball stopped playing, who then in turn handed it off to me when THEY stopped playing.

Regarding changing the sector, or arranging a gank squad: these responses should not be necessary. A single event should not have to change the way it is run because of the actions of one single player.

As far as starting late goes, see my point earlier about needing to do my homework. The early slot was shifted an hour earlier from its usual 2100 GMT spot so that the MCs could actually get dinner on those nights. Starting "late" is not an option because I don't have the time for it.

And to sum up the issue, I'd like to quote the opinion of one of your pirate buddies from a thread regarding event disruptions and possible temporary and sector-limited "event organizer" powers: "In the case of the Deneb Run, getting killed by pirates or random players is part of the event. The only proteciton it needs is from some disruptor flaring the racers at the beginning, before the race starts. That hasn't happened in a long time, but it would be good to allow the orginizers to remove and ban a person who does attack the race before it starts, so they can't delay it overlong. Your ideas for sector limited powers would cover that."

The situation given as an example in that quote is exactly what happened.

I know what happened, but it did not happen till you told a pirate to bugger off, what was he doing *before* you told him to move on? Reagrding the quote, thats something to take up with the devs, maybe this is a good message to them to not only make grey players grey, but also enable the *event manager* stuff I (and many others) have been suggesting for like, forever? Or cos the game is so empty, like kitteh points out, just not bother at all, and let the current player base die out so they can get some work done?

I'm not going anywhere. Just noting that some people seem impervious to respecting other people's fun or efforts. I'm sorry for them. And I know how the DR evolved. Still, Martin gave up for boredom. Miharu is giving up for lack of a pleasant environment to play into.

And, actually, I didn't die to Krag nor Roda, despite their efforts. On the contrary, got that sad excuse for a night without anything interesting on TV with my swarms in Sedina O6.

I tried to sell his mercmaud's scraps, but at the station they sniffed the metal, and said they wouldn't purchase sewer infected gangrenous leftovers.

Still, repeating the meme about the name of this game will eventually be taken as truth. Who's your inspiration? Joseph Goebbels?

I still have to ask, why a pirate, at a pirate station, was asked to go away?

Please answer this question first. This is role play right? I mean a pirate does have a reason to be at a pirate station?

Yoda: he was turboing DIRECTLY at the racer group, chasing (and firing at from what I could see) one of the racers who was heading from the station to the starting line.

I was well within my rights as the event organizer to tell him to bug off. If he wanted prize money, he could have waited until the race started a few minutes later.

As it is, he did not, and so the event is dead. I am not wasting my time with assholes like that.

May I ask, what happened exactly. Who was/were the griefer(s)?

I'm really sorry to hear that.
- I'd like to thank Miharu and her colleagues for a great event, well run. I'm sorry and disappointed that she feels so strongly about that and that Deneb Run has been effectively, griefed.
- I totally condemn the assholes and dipshits who would disrupt a popular and long-standing player-run event (which adds content to VO), just to spoil people's fun. Actually the culprit should be sanctioned by the Guides / Devs; or alternatively MC (race control) should get "event organizing" powers.
- The Betting Shop will be making a response, and will be refunding monies in the meantime (and hoping Deneb Run might survive in the future).

I'm not one to go disrupting evens like the Deneb run or nation war, but if they ain't participating in the event, they don't have to anything you tell them to do. No matter what you say or think, Odia M14 is not YOUR station and you running the event does not grant you any authority over anybody beyond denying prize moneys to people.

that being said who wants to start running the nation war [EDIT- i ment deneb run]? I think Ecka could do a good job of it, he has done a fine job running the nation war for a while.

Also I strongly disagree with giving event orginizers ANY powers over non participating players. As for punishment against the players involved for shooting things, that sets a horrible precedent. Now if they were using some kind of foul language over open channels or circumventing the /ignore system that's totally different.

LNH, did you mean the Deneb Run ?
Cos Nation War is already being run perfectly fine.

i think ecka could run the deneb run, ive seen him do a fine job on the nation war several times

lnh: No, he doesn't have to do anything I tell him to do. But keeping in mind that he's disrupting the event that involves several more people than myself -- in this particular case, five others, plus me for a total of six.

The Deneb Run has rules that allow pirates to win prizes specifically to stave off this sort of behavior.

I never said M-14 was my station anywhere. In fact, I openly acknowledge that it's a pirate station. That, however, is not an excuse for someone to come and disrupt an event that involves more than just a single player.

I do enjoy hosting the Run -- if I didn't I wouldn't have accepted the job, much less continued doing it through the summer and up to now. What I do not enjoy is that the two hours or so that are being set aside for this event are being effectively wasted by people intentionally disrupting the event, or people simply not showing up.

I'm reconsidering the "indefinite" status of the DR cancellation, but I think that at the very least the Run should be on hold for a few weeks. I'll gladly start it right back up sooner than that if we can have a guide that is willing to help maintain the peace in M-14 until the race actually begins.

why not let Yoda and LNH take over the deneb run, sponsor it and run it, they sure do seem vocal plenty and quite outspoken to handle the job. It also seems likely that they will also have to deal with these same problems and I would love to see how they deal with them. From all this it is well past time for these people to either put up or shut up.

Ed

blacknet, I'm horribly under qualified to run the event, thats why I suggested Ecka run it. However I'd be willing to give it a shot if nobody else more qualified is willing to do it. I'd bet part of the reason the event was attacked was because the people who attacked it probably don't like Miharu on a personal level, myself I have yet to have problems with anybody I can remember.

But if it became a recurring problem with racers being attacked before the start of the race I'd suggest starting the race from inside the station and when the go is given they all undock, this does then involve some luck as to which docking bays you come out of but there's always luck with warp in locations and numerous other things.

so instead of punishing the guilty,pander to them even more ?

why not support event organisers for once and hand out some slaps for once ?,
to stop game spoilers once again getting away with ruining others game time ?

otherwise this tactic can be used to take events away from people or even to be used as a griefing tool.