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Test the new Hive!

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Oct 08, 2007 samuel.penn link
Couple of extra points I've noted.

First of all, it would be nice if when you take the mission, it sets your navigation for you.

Secondly, after taking a mission in an Ion Storm, when the Hive bugged out, they all headed to a point about 10km from the storm exit, and jumped out from there. I assume that they should be limited to using the storm exit like everyone else.
Oct 09, 2007 momerath42 link
OK! I've done some of the polishing I promised. Nav-routes are now set and you get grouped (with other players and npc miners). You also get messages about how soon your side is going to give up and the description updates to reflect this too. There's a few other changes, but not very noticeable. Please test and report (even if it works perfectly)!
Oct 09, 2007 Lord~spidey link
hmm as soon as the first mission appeared i took it and the server/sector crashed i cant log back on to the test server in sedina D-14

its wierd cause mom left like 30 seconds before this happened

anyways it looks like the server is down cause i cant log on with any other chars or connect at all

[edit] you sure you didn't trip the power cord on your way out momerath?
Oct 09, 2007 momerath42 link
Doh! I dont know why it crashed yet, but it's back up and I'm no longer afk :)
Oct 09, 2007 Lord~spidey link
i can tell you what crashes it whenever i take the central HS where the levi is the server bugs out
Oct 09, 2007 momerath42 link
That crash is fixed, and the Levi now sits still too! (asteroid ring coming soon)
Oct 09, 2007 samuel.penn link
Something that occurred to me - would it be possible for the mission list to state which Hive missions are in Storms? That information must be available to the 'mission planners'. You could give a bigger XP award for storm fights (I at least dislike them).
Oct 09, 2007 Lord~spidey link
nother bug mom after i shot the levi there is still a mission active i took it went to the sector all the hive bots are dead and the corvus nps's are sitting on there asses waiting for nothing :}
Oct 09, 2007 momerath42 link
Thanks for the report spidey, and for taking out the Levi. Yes, mr penn, that's on our list for this week.
Oct 09, 2007 mr_spuck link
I blew up a queen and got this on mission 500004

[Tue Oct 9 17:30:52 2007] Clean kill!
[Tue Oct 9 17:30:52 2007] Light Weapons +2000
[Tue Oct 9 17:30:52 2007] Combat +300
[Tue Oct 9 17:30:52 2007] *Krodits Kastras is on our side! Be more careful!
[Tue Oct 9 17:30:52 2007] You were warned. Now you're out of the group. There are no long term consequences yet, but you might want to think about being more ca
reful if you want the good missions from us.
[Tue Oct 9 17:30:52 2007] *** mr_spuck has left the group.
[Tue Oct 9 17:30:52 2007] 1500 credits added to your account.

at first I thought he got caught in the explosion and the kill got credited to me but Krodits Kastras was never part of my group. And there didn't seem to be any ships nearby other than a trident (I could have missed him though).

what kind of bots are there supposed to be in the missions? I have a lot of observer kills in my log they make up a pretty large portion of the allied deaths.
Oct 09, 2007 mr_spuck link
it doesn't check where and what bots are killed. I can take hs and go orun hunting in dau or shootup strikeforces and stil get xp and money.

getting this from time to time when I never enter the mission sector:

[Tue Oct 9 17:55:47 2007] *Lach Takas is having issues.
[Tue Oct 9 17:55:47 2007] *Chazotaka Tatras is having issues.
Oct 09, 2007 samuel.penn link
Noticed that with large groups, the group list extends over the radar, obscuring the radar. I do have the AlertMachine plugin installed, but looking at it, I think it just means my fore radar is being obscured rather than the aft one.

Haven't managed to dock with a capital ship yet during combat - whenever I try, I scrape the walls and the capship ends up being an enemy.

Sam.
Oct 09, 2007 roguelazer link
Hmm. I just did a mission. When I got to the sector, there were a bunch of Hive bots, about a dozen Xang Xi ships, and about a dozen Corvus ships. All of the Xang Xi ships died and the mission said it was over, but the Corvus ships hung around killing Hive bots, and so did I. I continued to receive rewards until I died, about 5 minutes later...
Oct 09, 2007 roguelazer link
Did another mission. A few observations:

a) The ally pilots suck. About 30 seconds into the mission, 11 out of 15 were dead
b) I didn't get any special reward when we won...
c) The Hive bots still "bug out" to Sedina B-8, instead of actually going to the Levi sector.
Oct 09, 2007 roguelazer link
More interesting behavior:

1) When the Centaurs in the group run out of ammo, they mine. This is somewhat dumb, as it's a Hive infested sector and they usually get killed. They should probably actually dock with the capital ship and reload

2) If the mission is lost, the capital ship doesn't actually leave the sector. It just sits there surrounded by bots (I've got a great shot of a cap ship surrounded by hive bots and thousands of crates of debris)

3) The queen never participates. She just watches

4) Collectors are completely ignored. It seems like they should be the focus -- after all, the other bots are only defending the collectors. However, my allies never attack collectors. Do they even count in the mission?

And a suggestion: It would be neat if the mission interface had a button or something that we could push to find out how many Hive bots have been killed and (maybe) how many more need to die for success. I mean, we know how many more losses until failure, so it's only natural to wonder about how many more kills until victory...
Oct 09, 2007 roguelazer link
Okay, I've got some more specific behaviors now:

1) The Centaurs are actually completely unarmed. When they enter the sector, they immediately begin mining. Then they die.

2) The Oruns are ignored unless they somehow damage an ally vessel. Then the ally vessel will target them, and sit 10m away from them without firing. Somehow, ally vessels are blocked from attacking Oruns. Anyhow, they'll just sit there and eventually an Assault will come along and destroy the ally vessel

3) Neither Hive Queens nor ally capital ships do anything. They sit exactly where they warped in and respond to direct attacks (actually, the Hive Queen doesn't even do that)

4) The mission appears almost impossible to win. I've killed hundreds of hive bots in a single mission without winning (mission id 500130)

On the plus side, it's now very stable and responsive with dozens of ships in a single sector...
Oct 09, 2007 mr_spuck link
during my missions the queens attacked the tridents, sometimes they just sat around too though.
Oct 09, 2007 samuel.penn link
I've seen the same as Mr Spuck - the Queens and the Tridents generally go toe to toe. Sometimes hive bots will surround a Trident and hammer at its shields.

I have won a couple of times, and lost a few times. The big missions are probably easier if there are several PCs in the mission.

You definitely used to get points from killing collectors. I'm not too sure what you're supposed to kill to drive off the Hive, but targeting the collectors is a good way to get lots of XP.

Also, when they're bugging out, you can sit at the bug-out point and shoot the collectors as they approach one by one.

Sam.
Oct 09, 2007 Lord~spidey link
these are thing that i noticed i took a small HS and went to the sector and did as i was told these are the bugs i noted

1: no bonus at the end of the mission

2: killing a hive counts as killing a player or two depending how many NPC's die in the blast

3: killing the leviathan does not make all the bots go pop after i killed the levi no bots exploded and the missions are still up on the board

4: killing the leviathan did not end the mission its still filled with NPC's and hive bots but it does not appear on the mission select screen

6: i get mission rewards for killing any bot/npc like station gards

7: just after one team kill i get shot by the tridents and the corvus NPC's

8: these cashews taste like crap

http://files.filefront.com/errorslog/;8758544;/fileinfo.html

there you can see all these bugs as they hapened its a bit long but i hope it help :)

oh and i forgot to mention that the small HS missions work great i only experienced two bugs with them bug 1&6
Oct 09, 2007 Lord~spidey link
levi respawned but central hive mission dosen't show yet NPC's are fighting hive in E-16