Something needs to be done about the promys. They're to dang strong. With 28000 health and a nuke, nothing can come even close to them. I've gotten nuked over 5 times in the last half hour by promys. I look at the chat and the best anyone can do is run. Why should we be forced to run from any ship. As long as everything is "Equal" there should always be a way to counter a ship. But at this point, as far as i can see, there isn't. I don't think i can wait thill the 12th for something to change. It needs to be sooner.

it should be slower and turn a lot slower.. like 50% turbo speed is that i mean by slower

Solution, dodge those nukes.

I don't thank making it slower is going to completely fix it's problems. It should have just small weapons like the other specials. That would fix most of it's probelms. That way people that don't want to get killed can still be safe and yet if somone needs to die they can be taken down without putting up much of a fight. Promys were not ment ot be battle ships. Just have an advanced gattling for defence. Not nukes for total obliteration of everything that moves. When a few reds gather in sector 14 all with nuks and promys they are unstopable. It's just not right.

-DuctTape

As a reply to The Kid:

You can't dodge the nukes cause they get within 100 meters and then launch it. True they do substantually hurt them selves. But when they have 28000 life, a nuke doesn't even scratch them. They can launch two nukes, kill everything in sight, then dock with 4000 heath without having to worry about getting killed.

Just up the inertia on it, keep the turn rate the same it is now, but if the inertia goes up it will be really swervy.

Only 2 ships can with stand 2 avalons, a prometheus and station guards.

And have it have 1 large weapon port or just 1 small weapon port.

I agree that the Promy is probably the most powerful ship out there nowadays. I like the idea that it can take so much damage - but that thing can just turn too damn fast. It even looks unnatural when it does an about-face. Just too big and powerful to be so maneuverable. I mean, people are using it basically as a fighter. Theres probably a bunch of ways you can fix this though... but the best way I can think of is to just make it turn and accelerate a bit slower. About problems with the nukes, I dunno. I think it should be able to withstand a few blasts of those... but being able to easily dodge nukes is another thing entirely. And its not necissarily even a problem with the nukes. Even in a complete laser battle, the Promy outclasses pretty much everything else - including other specials. Just make it easier to hit - thats my proposal.

The problem is with the Nuke, not the Prom.

Celebrim, it is hard to defeat a prom if all it uses are gatling turrets and rockets, so the problem is not the nuke, a problem is the nuke.

Yeh - I'd have to agree with SL. The nuke IS a problem, I agree, but its not the reason why we have a problem with the Promy.

I agree, the promy isn't the problem. but unless something is done about the nuke, the promy can still launch the nuke. If the promy couldn't launch a nuke you would have to change the nuke right away. Even though some people don't like the nuke it still is prety well balenced. But the idea of an armored ship being able to use a nuke, it's not right. I just leave the promy and take away it's large weapon slot. Give it a few more smalls or something.

-DuctTape

In my not-so-humble opinion, the Avalon needs to be a capital ship-only weapon, or take up two heavy slots, therefore making it only useable on the Ragnarok. Don't take away the Prom's large slot, because it's an armored heavy bomber. We're not going for a nerfing here, just a balancing.

Promys do turn way too fast - they look more like a brick than a brick does! so shouldn't it move like one too?
I like the idea of a very tough ship though - but as it is, its a bit too powerful!

Ya, your right. Just do something to make the Promy not so powerful. It should be hard to beat. But not completely invincible. You should be able to blow them up with some good old fassion skill rather than having to gang up with 5 other people.

-DuctTape

If your parents arn't home do this (none of my made up experiments\demonstrations are tested):

Get 1 brick
Get 1 tennese ball
Get 2 E engines (model rocket engines)
Attach 1 engines to the right side of the brick \ tennese ball, launch.

Which one turned faster?

Did you know they make a size F Lem?
<evil grin>

heck, why use an F, i've got a few H engines in my back closed. Or you could go out and buy a J-350....mmmm...Power....

Why don't you just steal a nova rocket? besides the fact one of those is bigger then your house... a couple times over...

Kinda spendy...seems we're getting a little off subject. Is there any possiblity that things can be modified before the 12th?

Woot! Wombatula turning us back to the topic! Good save. As a Promy pilot, I can tell you that the pilots who have killed me have done most of their damage from a distance and with a lot of "stick and move" tactics. Those who get lazy and come in too close will surely die. As for tha Avalon, I can honestly say I've never used one (though they are pretty to watch from a distance) but I agree that the Promy / Avalon combination is too powerful. Don't take away the ability to hold a turret though, then it's a sitting duck.