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Jun 22, 2005 fazaaad link
The only downside now is that you don't make any money at all. Back to trading for all us combat people.
Jun 22, 2005 Beolach link
I haven't been able to play at all since this last change to the BP mission. About the money reward reduction, is it still more than it was after the first changes to the BP mission? It started out too low (especially for groups, as it did not increase, and was split between the group members), but when it was raised, it was too high. I hope it's at a happy middle ground now.
Jun 22, 2005 jexkerome link
I logged on a bit yesterday and found no one doing BP and the chat full of "BP is borked, OH NOES!" messages.

I tought you hypocrites were doing BP just because it was "fun and easy".

For the record, I'm also one of those who tought it against the RP element (not to mention grandiosely stupid) to tank one of your standings just to do BP and power-level while getting rich.

Problem now is that we're gonna have the PvPers back in greyspace buggin us people.
Jun 22, 2005 Fnugget link
i thought grey space was supposed to be dangerous...

why not bp? you still make more xp than botting, and its funner. I've seen lots of exploits in other games, where someone would do it, and all of a sudden, everyone does, until it's stopped. Except this one is a legal mission.
Jun 22, 2005 Nya13 link
idiots rule the world.

90 % of idiots
thats why 90% of the MMO suck.

pure stats lol
Jun 22, 2005 Renegade ++RIP++ link
and you brought this up... why?
Jun 22, 2005 Nya13 link
i am moving (once again)

losing fun (once again)

just waiting end of billing

as a gamer i try and test games first.
Jun 22, 2005 Nya13 link
fact is what do you want for VO?

1) a boring / slow / solo / easy / leveling game / just for carebears.

or

2) something existing /fast /no easy /player skill game.

VO is currently the (1)
If devs keep listen the wrong players. they will just stick on the wrong way.

There outside other spaceship MMO RPG.
instead of "copy game"
go find something that other games do not have.
VO has something particular for a MMO spaceship game but not exploited at all.
Jun 22, 2005 Renegade ++RIP++ link
sigh... seems you onlt did it since you wanted to get high without a lot of effort. Seeing as that turned out to be impossible now, you lost your fun and are going to leave.

so your exactly doing what I stated in the beginning what would happen. Namely people didn't do the mission because it was fun, they did it because it was easy and very very rewarding. You could gain the top in 2 days but after that what is the point... or aftergame. Albeit that I didn't care that you could get that levels...

cheers
Jun 22, 2005 Nya13 link
you are focusing only on the XP

instead of focusing on the interest for players.

actually :

what a player do in game?

first he is looking for XP (to raise licences); moneys and finaly his factions standing.

- AC mission ( he will do it hours and hours... days after days, months after months -> slowly) LONELY
- Trade guild ( he will do it peacefully hours and hours, days after days, months after months -> slowly) LONELY
- Mining ( he will do it peacefully hours and hours, days after days, months after months -> slowly) LONELY

the problem isn't the "lonely" part (...) of this missions.
problem is that there is nothing existing (lack of content) around to supplement it.

So you must give something interesting, faster way to raise, to keep his attention away from the lack of content.

bring more NPC to fight with interest and goal for players.
not just a bot to kill w/o reason.

BP is the first mission (1.2.3.4) with a real interest; players inter-activity and a PvP part.
players could level faster (pilot and weapons) licences, PvP, PvE, and making moneys.

By making BP worst like the AC mission. you will only kill that fun.

accordig to me the moneys rewards was only a problem (20 000 is too much) 7 500 must be correct but actually it went down to 2500.

it's far easier to do tradeguild or mining and take more moneys.
it's easier to AC mission (coz you could chain the bots)

but actually this missions are boring.

player is depity.
Jun 22, 2005 Nya13 link
the old bounty system (after beta) had something cool

i liked the 5% xp lose.
i like when we able to put bounty on somone.

with a faster way to raise and a system to lose thing. Gameplay will has more dynamism.

instead of a slow and stagnation gameplay.
Jun 22, 2005 Phaserlight link
Nya, read my lips, 2k/2k/2k experience for killing a prosus assault. This was *broken*

Of course players are going to complain when their fast and easy exploit is taken away, that's just human nature. You have to think about what's better for the game in the long run.

Listen to Renegade RIP. If the only reason players did the BP mission was to level up, and the leveling up only lasted 2 days, then there's not a very good reason to stick around afterwards, is there? Lowering the xp bonuses would actually keep this type of player around for *longer.*

If the reason players did the BP mission was for "players inter-activity and a PvP part" then why the hell are you complaining? That part of the mission hasn't changed.

Most of the people who were in it for the fast xp grind never engaged other players anyway.

The rewards are what they should be for killing an easy bot like the prosus assault. What we need now is an incentive for going after actual players, like an xp (and cash) bonus every time the group makes a pk.

As far as the advanced group combat missions, check out this suggestion here: http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/10713#124269
Jun 22, 2005 Nya13 link
"PvP or PvE"
eveything need interest.

fight for something.
do for something interesting.

Bp now is no more interesting. it's like the AC and other missions. that's is the problem.
Jun 22, 2005 Dr. Lecter link
I can't take it anymore! I'm fighting fire with fire, and Mecha, you're the man for this job. I want SCAR to have a "Nya13-to-Human" translator installed in my Valk as soon as possible.
Jun 22, 2005 Renegade ++RIP++ link
All I'm saying is ugh (my other post would be to undriendly to my own liking)

cheers
Jun 22, 2005 Phaserlight link
Moop!
Jun 22, 2005 Renegade ++RIP++ link
muahahha I posted afte rthe lock...

sorry fm I just had to do that :D
Jun 22, 2005 Forum Moderator link
How ironic that a thread titled "Nobody Cares..." has so many posts.

So changes have been made and the "crisis" is averted. We've kinda wandered off the topic and now can lock this up.

Please make suggestions in the Suggestions forum under the appropriate existing thread.

http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/10620

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