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I choose to fly like a psycho and i manage to dodge most of em!
I have to say, when I was flying around with bumcheese and using rails I did use autofire when on mobile and scored quite a few kills with it. Although I guess when I do play on mobile I use WiFi and not mobile data, so lag was not really an issue for me either. I even got Niki once har har!
I honestly didn't find it that much easier than when railing people on PC. If someone was rolling a lot they were still pretty much guaranteed to miss, but with that said I did manage to score a few hits that I would never have pulled off with a PC. Also to save people wasting my ammo, it's as simple as toggling autoaim off. Toggle it back on when you get close enough and POP!
I guess my use of a controller and not the touch screen also makes a difference, but I have used the touchscreen too and gotten quite a few up close and personal kills with rails.
Anyway, I guess I'm kind of neutral to this suggestion. I do not think autofire gives a great advantage when using rails, but it does help. If it was removed for rails it would make it a lot harder on mobile users, but I also understand that most mobile users have not played since the dawn of time, and that they would probably suck just as bad on PC too.
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I honestly didn't find it that much easier than when railing people on PC. If someone was rolling a lot they were still pretty much guaranteed to miss, but with that said I did manage to score a few hits that I would never have pulled off with a PC. Also to save people wasting my ammo, it's as simple as toggling autoaim off. Toggle it back on when you get close enough and POP!
I guess my use of a controller and not the touch screen also makes a difference, but I have used the touchscreen too and gotten quite a few up close and personal kills with rails.
Anyway, I guess I'm kind of neutral to this suggestion. I do not think autofire gives a great advantage when using rails, but it does help. If it was removed for rails it would make it a lot harder on mobile users, but I also understand that most mobile users have not played since the dawn of time, and that they would probably suck just as bad on PC too.
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Yoda++
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Railguns do autofire, and it's not as easy as it looks.
Really, this ^
Autofire is a double-edged sword, especially with ammo-based weapons.
Railguns do autofire, and it's not as easy as it looks.
Really, this ^
Autofire is a double-edged sword, especially with ammo-based weapons.
I died to autofire railz. Remove auyofire railz for this reason so i dont die to autofire railz anymore.
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I find railing on PC easier than on mobile with AF.
I find railing on PC easier than on mobile with AF.
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i do not see why this was bumped. it was dead since july and then a random newb comes along and bumps it ONLY to try to make fun of the OP who happens to be an experienced combat vet...
i don't think this will happen. but now that it is bumped i will comment.
the OPs reasons are clear. the rail gun is a weapon that is a 100% about aiming skill with very limited ammo. one hit does severe damage. all of that aiming work is taken away if they auto fire. arguably every other weapon needs skill too. auto fire however is intended to make combat easier. i can see why neuts auto fire. they only make sense if fired constantly and that would get complicated if you would have to tap all the time. but for such a powerful weapon it is completely okay to require that the player fires by himself.
and then there is lag. i assume that was the primary reason for the post... you can imagine for yourself that laggy-invisible rail guns are not dodgeable.
i do not see why this was bumped. it was dead since july and then a random newb comes along and bumps it ONLY to try to make fun of the OP who happens to be an experienced combat vet...
i don't think this will happen. but now that it is bumped i will comment.
the OPs reasons are clear. the rail gun is a weapon that is a 100% about aiming skill with very limited ammo. one hit does severe damage. all of that aiming work is taken away if they auto fire. arguably every other weapon needs skill too. auto fire however is intended to make combat easier. i can see why neuts auto fire. they only make sense if fired constantly and that would get complicated if you would have to tap all the time. but for such a powerful weapon it is completely okay to require that the player fires by himself.
and then there is lag. i assume that was the primary reason for the post... you can imagine for yourself that laggy-invisible rail guns are not dodgeable.
and then a random newb
a random newb
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Look up irony.
a random newb
NEWB
Look up irony.
Lag + joystick + Incarnate firing for you = recipe for weaksauce
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-1 again to OP and please let this thread die. Aiming on mobile needs all the help it gets.
What about an amendment that if a mobile enabled joystick/controller/third party input is detected auto fire is automatically switched to manual?
because they could use the autofire toggle back; when you say 3rd party input, wwould that include DB? its already hard enough to steer/strafe/roll a ship in combat without having to hold fire down.
In fact, remove AF entirely. Everyone who plays mobile seriously has a joystick and should fire the frickin' guns themselves. They already have the lag advantage.
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I found the mobile player with rails + autofire (AJ) to not be a big deal. If it gives a mobile player an advantage over a PC player, however slight, that seems a good thing to me.
I found the mobile player with rails + autofire (AJ) to not be a big deal. If it gives a mobile player an advantage over a PC player, however slight, that seems a good thing to me.
Still waiting for somebody to put a mobile player on f2P accounts in an atlas of doom, might not do much, but it's something, and no weight penalty with stock turret. Can't hurt, I'll have to try that next nation war if I'm awake for it.
+1 for removing AF entirely as Ore suggested. No need for AF. Should also be a separate suggestion.
PC players already have a huge advantage. How many decent mobile pilots can most of you even name? Nerfing AF is silly. I used to kill bumcheese and his fearsome rail hornet all day in a bloody mobile rag. Sorry you could not park your fighter up his ass and pop him, but lowering the advantages of a class of player that you already were not afraid of is a waste of dev time. PC players afraid of mobile kids with auto fire need to suck it up. As for everyone on mobile playing with aftermarket controls, that is silly. My first year and a half in vo was on a smartphone with only droidbuttons to help me. ..... oh, and -1 to OP.
Less rage would have done anna thehma. Less rage and finally letting this thread die.
I realize the threat of mobile players with auto fire is less big than I thought it was. That's why I stopped defending my suggestion. I suppose the incident that caused me to suggest this was not very representative at all. It was the first time I met someone with auto fire rails and happened while I played on my old laggy PC and he played on an extremely laggy connection.
Playing on stable connections mobile AF was no longer a threat at all. That's why I'm saying: It's cool. Let the thread vanish!
P.S.: bumcheese is the alt of a well know PC player. I have no clue if he is playing that char on mobile.
I realize the threat of mobile players with auto fire is less big than I thought it was. That's why I stopped defending my suggestion. I suppose the incident that caused me to suggest this was not very representative at all. It was the first time I met someone with auto fire rails and happened while I played on my old laggy PC and he played on an extremely laggy connection.
Playing on stable connections mobile AF was no longer a threat at all. That's why I'm saying: It's cool. Let the thread vanish!
P.S.: bumcheese is the alt of a well know PC player. I have no clue if he is playing that char on mobile.
Auto-fire + Android emulator + blue tooth + lag = incarnate AIMBOT