ok now that all nations have a cool and super awesome chaser (SVG Valk UDV) we can get rid of the overpowered greyhound. right now every unskilled idiot can buy one of these ships and prevent getting shot down by a more skilled opponent by just swarming and seeing the skilled pilot just dodges the crap and then whiningly run rep with 70% energy left (so not losing any ego Points). this ship was only made op cause many whiners whined for it.

some ideas how it can stay in game but be less attractive:

- get rid of infiniturbo

- require home faction KOS to buy it

- reduce it to 220 m/s topspeed

- make it cost 2 million per ship

- get rid of it's large port

yup.

Now that UIT has a semi decent ship, +1 to requiring home KOS to buying it.

Everything else is a -1

"this ship was only made op cause many whiners whined for it."

+1 Ye'r absolutely right, i couldnt agree more with ye, and it applies to many things around here, like player owned crapships, shields, faction reddux etc.

Wanna sumethin' from the devs? Just whine long enough to get it!

What the Fluffster said!

Requiring home KOS seems reasonable. But additionally increase its cost. It is a great ship for many activities in VO.

-1 Greyhound is fine. If the devs finally agreed to make corvus a pirate faction, then sure, make it available only to people with KOS home faction. Otherwise it's fine. If people *cough*serco four*cough* want to fly around in them all day and be nubs, then we'll call 'em what they are.

-1. The Greyhound is fine.

+1 To you rage quitting and going to play hello kitty online.

-1 Greyhound is good as it is.

Anything as trivial as faction standing should not be a sole access requirement for high-end ships. It is still far too easy to change your faction standing.

and nation

Hmm, look at the vo history of the hound.

Lecter wanted it so that griefers could shoot noobs in the back and run away.

RED/BR1/ONE/Boda now use it to fling swarms about and then run away.

Traders use it to flick the finger in passing, and run away.

Simple answer to hound abuse, make it 2 s port. Limit its availability if you like, the folk that want them have plenty.

Why not make it manufactured like the superlight, but otherwise keep it as is?

"RED/BR1/ONE/Boda now use it to fling swarms about and then run away."

<Insert boulder of salt here>

Hmm, look at the vo history of the XC.

Traders wanted it so that circlejerkers could carry more dildos while wanking.

FAMY/CLM/Boda now use it to haul stolen wallets while wanking.

Nationalists use it to carry useless purified xith, and wank.

Simple answer to XC abuse, make it 10 cu. Limit its availability if you like, the folk that want them have plenty.

I dont see a problem with the hound but that is probably because when one appears I turn and shoot at it.

They are still made of glass and that balances them. Being in an XC is the only time you're 100% screwed and that's against any ship not just a hound

-1

:popcorn:

I still think the Hound needs 1000 less armor to be a true interceptor, as it's used for too many (almost risk free) hit and run style attacks where the only ship that can catch it is another hound (lol BR1, newbs). It's also commonly used as a PvP ship in dogfights since it can almost always turbo away from any situation unscathed.

-1 OP
the hound is an equal opportunity ship. It needs the same requirements of anyone who wants it.
and if anyone in any nation can now have a super power ship - then there's no problem with the hound as it is.
If anything, the Superlight needs to have better stats than the hound. This ship requires actual effort and a measure of skill and experience to obtain.

ok this picked up well.

Death Fluffy - yup. requiring home KOS seems the reasonable to me. other things were just alternative ideas though i like the 2 small port idea just as much

greenwall - yeah but that way they'll never realize that they are noobs :P

vskye - by the way you say this i can see youre among the people who run away from your destiny all day long :P

draugath - going back and forth with KOS/no KOS is a hassle over time

davejohn - yep! giving it 2 small ports would cross out the swarm and run crap

TheRedSpy - do i know you? i can't remember seeing you in game ever.

Pizzasgood - i don't get the point of that. once somebody who likes to explode XCs sees a XC he can explode it. it's a completely different story with the hound.

CrazySpence - just cause youve been in Alpha tester doesn't mean you can destroy running hounds with your great skill. sorry spence you super powers that you mention every so often will not strike here...

Dr. Lecter - do i know you? i can't remember seeing you in game ever.

Kierky - yeah decreasing the armor is another good way.

tuxdroid9 - um. in a game with one super power ship and everyone flying it then no one will ever explode again except for newbs for either can't get it yet or can't fly at all. and those guys have always exploded anyway...

I never said anything about destroying running hounds I said destroying approaching hound, quite possible.

Anyways no real need to continue participating in this thread, it's destroyed enough