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So, it's been nearly a year since this weapon was added, but it's not seen much use among the player base except as a trade item (bug exploits, etc.)
Why? Well let's compare it to a similar, but very widely used weapon: The Gatling Turret.
According to it's stats, the HV has the following advantages over the GT:
Velocity - This is the big one. 200m/s versus 180m/s
Mass - Only 800kg instead of 2000kg, but it also lacks the auto-aim that makes the GT so devastating.
Energy - 10 per shot instead of 12. I think this is still too high for only 400 dmg per shot, but whatever.
Fire Rate - 0.075s instead of 0.100s, but not really
Due to the way the game quantizes time, both of these weapons fire at the exact same speed: 0.128s.
Suggestion: Reduce the fire delay of the Gatling Cannon HV to the minimum time quantum available: 0.064s
This weapon takes skill to use effectively. It also costs a lot, has limited availability, and uses 8 grid power. Give it a damage output that makes it worth using.
Why? Well let's compare it to a similar, but very widely used weapon: The Gatling Turret.
According to it's stats, the HV has the following advantages over the GT:
Velocity - This is the big one. 200m/s versus 180m/s
Mass - Only 800kg instead of 2000kg, but it also lacks the auto-aim that makes the GT so devastating.
Energy - 10 per shot instead of 12. I think this is still too high for only 400 dmg per shot, but whatever.
Fire Rate - 0.075s instead of 0.100s, but not really
Due to the way the game quantizes time, both of these weapons fire at the exact same speed: 0.128s.
Suggestion: Reduce the fire delay of the Gatling Cannon HV to the minimum time quantum available: 0.064s
This weapon takes skill to use effectively. It also costs a lot, has limited availability, and uses 8 grid power. Give it a damage output that makes it worth using.
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make the grid requirement high enough ye cannot equip with two flares.
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Wait on the flare thing until we can actually have a useful HV Gat.
I would personally welcome this replacing the gat turret as the weapon of choice for gat/flare combos.
Wait on the flare thing until we can actually have a useful HV Gat.
I would personally welcome this replacing the gat turret as the weapon of choice for gat/flare combos.
Yeah, this one you actually have to aim...
Time quantum is so fucking stupid. At least make it a smaller number, jesus. I'm not quite sure how many weapons got a small buff in delay or whatever to balance it, and because of this mechanic, it did sweet fuck all.
The quantum is there because it's an MMO and normal bandwidth can only handle so many things coming down and going up at the same time.
It's actually a significant nerf what you're proposing because you'd need to have a comparable decrease in energy or you're only increasing the damage per second (burst damage), not the damage per battery.
You're also increasing the speed at which it drains, decreasing the effectiveness of the weapon for chasing or on-the-move engagements and increasing the burden on aiming and positioning because the weapon will run out of juice sooner all of which seem to be unintended consequences.
Even if you fix these problems I still don't think it compares to the megaposi in terms of efficiency and DPS and I still dont think it will ever be a replacement for the gat/flare prom. The turret is compensation for the fact that the prom has a slower turn ratio than other ships. That's not going to go away just because the gat does more DPS.
Your only serious use-case then is warthogs and megaposis are just so hard to beat in that role the weapon would need to almost completely eliminate scatter to compare. There's not much you can do to it before it becomes basically a megaposi in itself.
Real weapon diversity comes from having effects with the weapons. Like perhaps variability of damage where each gatling bolt does within a range of damage or slows the ship down or bla bla you get the picture.
It's actually a significant nerf what you're proposing because you'd need to have a comparable decrease in energy or you're only increasing the damage per second (burst damage), not the damage per battery.
You're also increasing the speed at which it drains, decreasing the effectiveness of the weapon for chasing or on-the-move engagements and increasing the burden on aiming and positioning because the weapon will run out of juice sooner all of which seem to be unintended consequences.
Even if you fix these problems I still don't think it compares to the megaposi in terms of efficiency and DPS and I still dont think it will ever be a replacement for the gat/flare prom. The turret is compensation for the fact that the prom has a slower turn ratio than other ships. That's not going to go away just because the gat does more DPS.
Your only serious use-case then is warthogs and megaposis are just so hard to beat in that role the weapon would need to almost completely eliminate scatter to compare. There's not much you can do to it before it becomes basically a megaposi in itself.
Real weapon diversity comes from having effects with the weapons. Like perhaps variability of damage where each gatling bolt does within a range of damage or slows the ship down or bla bla you get the picture.
You're right, this is more suited for Warthogs. This isn't for Gat/Flare proms. It's a rapid-fire burst weapon and I'm suggesting we put it's actual rate of fire much closer to it's advertised rate of fire. We already have a Megaposi and don't need another one.
Go post another suggestion if you want to make magic fat-rays that slow people's ships down. This one is about the Gat HV.
Go post another suggestion if you want to make magic fat-rays that slow people's ships down. This one is about the Gat HV.
yeah, nothing wrong with only adjusting the firing rate. Draining the battery faster is a good thing I think. Seems to me that this adjustment would essentially make the weapon a high powered / longer ranged popcorn gun, which I think would be an interesting thing to play with.
Agreed. VO lacks a decent "shotgun" style weapon, I reckon.
Well, it's more like a machine gun.
Your mom likes machine guns.
How do you think I was born?
I assume your mommy holstered your daddy's machine gun and then 9 months later they drew you out and BANG!
You have already derailed the thread. How do we ever get anything implemented when greenwall acts like a 4 year old, then Snk laughs at him?
4 years ol'? Good to see greenwall finally grew up.
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