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I don't think that the pirates should be able to put up a bot to remotely monitor trade traffic in a wormhole sector. I know you pirates are going to scream BS over this, but if you can remotely monitor traders to decide whether or not you want to pirate them, then I demand the ability to look at a list of players who are logged on to decide if I want to log on and play or not.
I think this is only fair. Let's level the playing field here a little, if you want to monitor a sectors traffic, you should have to be there to do it, not do it remotely.
I think this is only fair. Let's level the playing field here a little, if you want to monitor a sectors traffic, you should have to be there to do it, not do it remotely.
you could make your own bot that monitors when rats are around.
Really these bots exist because we don't have (a previously suggested) sensor beacon that would achieve a similar task
Really these bots exist because we don't have (a previously suggested) sensor beacon that would achieve a similar task
Isn't that exactly why APL was removed, and the cause for the riot when someone started adding his bots to watch grayspace?
IRC and Plegwhatever One-eyed have been there for so long that I can't even remember when it started...
For me, not only bots should be allowed, but APL should return with a "privacy" option".
IRC and Plegwhatever One-eyed have been there for so long that I can't even remember when it started...
For me, not only bots should be allowed, but APL should return with a "privacy" option".
CrazySpence:
What I'm looking for here is total anonymity unless you're in the same sector with someone. Anonymity is the reason they took down the list of people online. And I thought that was a good idea, even though I am not, nor ever have been a pirate. I understand the contribution of suspense and danger that pirates add to the game, and wouldn't have it any other way. But we aren't all programmers here. Programmers using bots have an unfair advantage over other players. All I'm asking for here is a level playing field.
What I'm looking for here is total anonymity unless you're in the same sector with someone. Anonymity is the reason they took down the list of people online. And I thought that was a good idea, even though I am not, nor ever have been a pirate. I understand the contribution of suspense and danger that pirates add to the game, and wouldn't have it any other way. But we aren't all programmers here. Programmers using bots have an unfair advantage over other players. All I'm asking for here is a level playing field.
Anonymity would only really make sense if the game was much more populated. Besides, the bot is doing nothing a player can't do.
Actually Phlegeston's one-eyed get is a relatively recent AFK bot / sentry.
It has NOT been there so long.
IRC has been around forever but it is NOT monitoring a WH, it has a specific function to relay chat between the IRC chat room and in-game. And it should stay, as it always has been there.
It has NOT been there so long.
IRC has been around forever but it is NOT monitoring a WH, it has a specific function to relay chat between the IRC chat room and in-game. And it should stay, as it always has been there.
I'm in favor of all bots including IRC bots being booted. The thing is, it wouldn't prevent a trial account with the proper plugins from doing the same.
For what its worth, I've seen people fly through Phlegs sector un-assaulted on many occasions.
For what its worth, I've seen people fly through Phlegs sector un-assaulted on many occasions.
Really bots make no difference. There is a wonderful phrase in old scots law "by habit and repute" . When you have been about space a bit you know who will be where, and when. The get reports me flying through h2 to a non existant CHRN guild ? so what ...
So , if folk want to play about a bit with bots that converse then let them . Really , more important things to concentrate on than this ...
So , if folk want to play about a bit with bots that converse then let them . Really , more important things to concentrate on than this ...
If you don't want to play with other players you probably shouldn't be in an MMO to begin with. As for get, you know where he is, and it's not a choke-point, go around ;)
No APL. Bots are meh, because they're double edged blades, as the saying goes. If your enemy can make one, you sure can too.
The riot over The Grey Republic or whoever's bots was due to them having many bots watching many places. I'm not a fan of Phleg watching the Latos-Azek WH, but he's only one bot, and that wormhole can be traveled around. If CHRN started establishing bots in multiple wormholes, I'd be just as pissed at them, and would leave the guild over it if they didn't stop.
slime73: Thats just my point, the players should be doing the observing, not the bot.
drazed: I'm not complaining about playing against people, I like playing against people. I don't want to play against bots as well. I want the pirates to do their own observing.
drazed & Pizzasgood: There is the Get at the Latos/Azek wormhole and Sir_Tradealot at the Verasi/Edras wormhole. This bottlenecks the traffic through the Ukari/Arta Caelestis wormhole. Sounds like a choke point to me.
drazed: I'm not complaining about playing against people, I like playing against people. I don't want to play against bots as well. I want the pirates to do their own observing.
drazed & Pizzasgood: There is the Get at the Latos/Azek wormhole and Sir_Tradealot at the Verasi/Edras wormhole. This bottlenecks the traffic through the Ukari/Arta Caelestis wormhole. Sounds like a choke point to me.
and yet trade a lot carries a tgft tag......
If and when the bots become an actual problem the devs will get rid of them...
If and when the bots become an actual problem the devs will get rid of them...
Sir_Tradealot is a pirate bot?
I knew it!
: )
I knew it!
: )
Two points of response:
> For what its worth, I've seen people fly through Phlegs sector un-assaulted on many occasions.
me too, in almost 2 months I have been engaged in Latos H2 only once, out of over a hundred occasions.
Seems to me CHRN is not very active.
> Sir_Tradealot is a pirate bot?
There seems to be an unstated assumption though much of this thread, starting with the OP, that Sir_Tradealot is a bot put up by Pirates. Let's callenge that assumption explicitly. Sir_Tradealot was put up by [TGFT]. This can be verified by a council member in TGFT.
As such, it is definately not a pirate bot in my opinion. Perhaps it's value to TGFT is as an anti-pirate observer?
> For what its worth, I've seen people fly through Phlegs sector un-assaulted on many occasions.
me too, in almost 2 months I have been engaged in Latos H2 only once, out of over a hundred occasions.
Seems to me CHRN is not very active.
> Sir_Tradealot is a pirate bot?
There seems to be an unstated assumption though much of this thread, starting with the OP, that Sir_Tradealot is a bot put up by Pirates. Let's callenge that assumption explicitly. Sir_Tradealot was put up by [TGFT]. This can be verified by a council member in TGFT.
As such, it is definately not a pirate bot in my opinion. Perhaps it's value to TGFT is as an anti-pirate observer?
Well, anyways this suggestion is low priority. So, don't bother.
well as long as the paranoid are around....I monitor when everyone talks and save it in a database
At the risk of further insulting inaminit's intelligence beyond what he has accomplished on his own, I would like to clarify that "IRC" and "PA Voice" are also not pirate bots. Those belong to Firemage and the guild PA, respectively.
The only pirate bot that I am aware of is Phleg. Perhaps other pirate guilds have their own that I am not aware of, but if they do, those bots do not collaborate with us.
Now make like a snowman and chill.
The only pirate bot that I am aware of is Phleg. Perhaps other pirate guilds have their own that I am not aware of, but if they do, those bots do not collaborate with us.
Now make like a snowman and chill.
At the risk of further insulting inaminit's intelligence beyond what he has accomplished on his own, I would like to clarify that "IRC" and "PA Voice" are also not pirate bots. Those belong to Firemage and the guild PA, respectively.
Yes m8, they like to play one-gate-soccer.
Yes m8, they like to play one-gate-soccer.
Well I guess since there's only one who agrees with me that the bots should go away, and players play the game themselves; and what with the oppositions inability to form a cogent argument without stooping to cheap shots and insults, (yes pirren and Pizzasgood, I'm talking to you, the pre-pubescent mentalities), I guess we can consider this thread dead.