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Turrets usage

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Jul 26, 2010 Crusader8389 link
1. +1.... just because its an option.... -1 if it takes too much of dev's time to implement...

2. +1... loled at the 'quantic remote' using entangled particles... just vague enough to be able to not have to explain it :)

3.1 +1
3.2 +1... lotsa resources required would be nice, make it a struggle to maintain using this around experienced rats
Jul 26, 2010 tarenty link
1: 0
2: -###, magic?
3.1: +###
3.2: +###, but not too many resources.
Jul 27, 2010 The Crusader! link
If ships can pass through wormholes, why not radio waves?
Jul 27, 2010 tarenty link
Wormholes have an explaination. Radio waves... ??!
Jul 28, 2010 Crusader8389 link
Seriously. You don't know what a radio wave is? There is something called wikipedia...
Jul 28, 2010 ryan reign link
"Radio waves... ??!"

/education fail
Jul 28, 2010 ryan reign link
Jul 29, 2010 Alloh link
Ok, facts:
-radio waves traverse space, modulating it as is passes
-Wormholes are holes in universe fabric with 2 ends as a tunnel
-Without space radio waves cannot propagate. So it can't traverse WHs.
-With limited light speed, even within a single system there would be seconds or minutes delay. Earth is at 8.317 minutes from sun at light speed.

So, to make universal /100 possible, there should be sub-space-radio, yet undiscovered in 2010.

More important, if we have real-time comms, we can have no-delay remote control of turrets, or 'body matrix' across stations. And if we can ressurect after exploding far away in space, I see no limits why I can't respawn now in another station, then back here.

And now that I noticed there are 2 Crusaders around...
Jul 29, 2010 The Crusader! link
err yes I sometimes log onto my other accounts... but ya, you have a point, Alloh, we don't really need an explanation... 100 is explanation in of itself.
Jul 29, 2010 Wyrm link
I think that the AI turret is a good idea, but it might be sensible to give it only a limited ammo allocation or something like that. Set it up as a kludge of an idea, available from a minor UIT faction like Xang Xi, using tech co-opted from Hive bots. Set the thing up so that it still uses the IFF from the Hive bot, so it will not fire on Hive bots, but it will fire on other players who aren't in a group with the user, or on Station NPCs.

Make the ammunition something like the Flechette gun; a shotgun system to compensate for the AI's rubbish aiming abilities and make the thing only work fairly close in to the player's ship, so strictly a means of guarding one's back in a firefight with a pirate. That, plus the limited amount of ammo the thing has onboard (it's a kludged-together system, remember, shoehorned into limited space so the ammo can will be quite small) would make it fairly ineffectual except as a defensive tailgunner. The poor IFF would also allow for comedy moments when a player enters a station sector with one turned on, shoots up a guard and gets a temporary KOS for his trouble.
Jul 29, 2010 tarenty link
...Of course I know what radio waves are, idiot. I'm utterly confused about how you might plan to move something with them. Alloh, we don't need more magic.

Honestly, do you think I'm five?
Jul 29, 2010 Spedy link
What do you mean 'moving something with radio waves'? They're thinking remote-control (ala television or RC helicopter) not light-sail-through-a-wh. Either that or alloh is so jumbled no one can interpret it properly.
Jul 29, 2010 Dr. Lecter link
Honestly, do you think I'm five?

Yeah, pretty much.
Jul 29, 2010 Alloh link
Tarenty, unless you're also "The Crusader!" then the explanation was not for you. And was not about what is a radio wave, but why it does not cross WH.

And it was about a sort of RC turrets, with its gunner sitting comfortably inside a station, so we don't have to do magic or die/respawn there/die/respawn back.

Subspace comms, as /100, or entangled particles, would be RP justification.

+1 to "Dumb AI" or "Hive Firing Control Core", sound a good balance to "npc gunner". Ignores bots in general, and hate anyone not grouped.
Jul 31, 2010 Crusader8389 link
ok tarenty, there has been a change in ideas:

step 1: read allohs post
step 2: realize that you cannot broadcast on 100 to everyone unless there is some radio-like communications system that traverses wormholes
step 3: come to the conclusion that instead of sending chat strings, this chat system could be used to instantaneously send commands to a turret with minimal space taken up (think: radio controlled tanks or those little remote control toys you used to get as a kid)

There doesn't need to be an explanation, unless someone would care to explain how 100 instantenously transmits chat across the entire known VO universe.
Aug 01, 2010 slime73 link
You can use chat to control ships anyway, with the right plugin.
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Aug 01, 2010 Crusader8389 link
slime, we don't need to hear about you're... unscrupulous... use of plugins... lol
Aug 01, 2010 tarenty link
Crusader, Alloh, I'm not stupid. I understand what you are attempting to get across to us all. I misread. Everyone can misread, even the infamous old fart, Dr. Lecter.

"If ships can pass through wormholes, why not radio waves?"

I thought you wanted to pass ships through radio waves to move them something like a wormhole does. Poorly worded, imo. >_>

An RC gunning option is interesting, though there should be a fee for using the station's equipment.
Aug 01, 2010 Dr. Lecter link
Sigh. Are you really not clear on the basic rules, tarenty?

Admit nothing.

Deny everything.

Make counter-accusations.
Aug 02, 2010 tarenty link
We need a /ignore for the forums. ;)