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Xang Xi Revenant Hyena (scavenger variant)

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Dec 22, 2009 ShankTank link
Talks of terrible ship models have reminded me that one of the coolest looking ships is completely unused outside the world of what newbies think are badass ships (who doesn't remember being jazzed by the Rev as a wee newbie?). Anyways, it has a backstory!

"The newly revealed Revenant Hyena is a ship class shrouded in rumor. Private investigators allegedly hired by Aeolus have made public claims that the mysterious organization named 'the Syndicate' has commissioned Xang Xi to create the automated tools necessary for the manufacturing of the ship in exchange for research information of the often overlooked Hive-produced substance unofficially dubbed 'Samoflange' by Leviathan bomber crews (jokingly named so due to the question of its purpose) provided by a Corvus research crew. The analysis of 'Samoflange' was supposedly useful to a ship component building technique called 'densification' that was until now only known to be mastered by the Hive Leviathans and it is vital to the construction of the Hyena.

There are two theories as to why the Syndicate specifically requested the Revenant, specifically, to be the test bed for the experimental 'densification' technology. Some say it was an aesthetic choice and that is was chosen subliminally because the name a 'Revenant' is the ghost or reanimated corpse of someone who has done treacherous deeds, but the more likely and more functional explanation is that the revenant is a ship design that has over 50% of its space taken up by very inefficient engines that could use a boost in power-to-size for more cargo space (a feat easily accomplished by densification).

The original deal was said to have made perfectly clear that the Hyena was only to be used privately by Syndicate operatives and, while Xang Xi would indeed produce the machinery required to build the Hyena, only Corvus would be allowed to manufacture the ship. However, rumored to be encouraged by the unknown council pulling the strings of Xang Xi known only as 'the Octagon,' several loopholes in the deal were exploited from Xang Xi's end and they started manufacturing the Hyenas by themselves. Shortly thereafter Xang Xi temporarily froze production and once again sought out compromise with Corvus... suspiciously after the consecutive 'accidental' deaths of exactly eight Xang Xi citizens.

By then, however, it supposedly would have looked too suspicious had the Hyena manufacturing project be transferred back over completely to Corvus, so the final deal was made all with the name 'Corvus' allegedly being replaced with 'project sponsor' on paper. 75% of all profits coming from Hyena sales would go to Corvus and Corvus would have an equal say in who the ship is available to while the Hyena would only be manufactured and distributed at Xang Xi stations and it would be advertised as a 'scavenger' ship to preserve Xang Xi's business reputation."

Xang Xi Revenant Hyena (scavenger variant)
Faction Level: +800 XX and CV (distributed at XX stations)
License: 8/7/7/5/-
Price range: 50,000-80,000cr
Armor: 10000
Cargo: 26
Weapons: 2S, 1L
Mass: 15000 kg
Length: 13 m
Thrust: 750 N
Turbo Thrust: 850 N
Max Speed: 55 m/s
Max Turbo Speed: 235 m/s
Turbo Energy Drain: 62/s
Spin Torque: 16.0 Nm

I would just like to say that I had a lot of fun typing out that backstory, but I did it at 3am so forgive any possible typos lol.
Dec 22, 2009 Dr. Lecter link
Dec 22, 2009 peytros link
this is the miniprom to end all miniproms hell it has a better thurst/mass ratio
Dec 22, 2009 ShankTank link
Aye, that's why I decreased the armor to 10,000 which is the lowest of all Rev armor and made the turbo speed 215 instead of 220. I was thinking taking a different approach to it, like making it the "sprint ship" that's been talked about with 62/s drain and 240 m/s turbo speed, I'm also thinking I should decrease the strafe speed to 55 m/s. What do you think? Hmmm, I'm going to try that. Hokay, how's that?

Edit: and lol, Lecter, I just kind of pulled that one out of my ass. That must be some kind of joke. WHAT IS SAMOFLANGE?!

Edit: also, I can think of quite a few PCC missions to go along with this ship.
Dec 22, 2009 ryan reign link
Love the back story, love the ship... put it in the game and I'll send geishas to love the Devs!!!
Dec 23, 2009 pirren link
Good job. Great ship's backstory! And i think stats are quite fair, because it has only 10000 armor and kinda heavy.

Only things i find a bit overpowered are thrusts (IMHO), because these engines are almost similar to 30t moth, while even prom Mk2 (40 cu) or SCP (good thrusts) are larger then rev.. Present max turbo 235 m/s hyena has nice acceleration even with turbo thrust 650-750. If we could test hyena's ability in space it'll be great! +++
Dec 23, 2009 toshiro link
Yesyesyesyesyes.

Pleease? XX needs more love, ship-wise (none so far).
Dec 23, 2009 Spedy link
Can't see anything wrong with it (although the high turbo speed might cause problems w/ devs..) So lets do it!
Dec 23, 2009 Dr. Lecter link
A renevant that's faster than an IBG, a SVG, or a Valk? It's a long time until April 1st.
Dec 23, 2009 ShankTank link
Aye, I nerfed the non-turbo speed down to 55 m/s so it's a little bit harder to use in straight pvp, but not impossible (a different approach from the Prom). After peytros posted I actually edited the stats to something more of a sprint ship with medium dogfighting capability (see the 62/s drain and 235 m/s top speed). Before (as peytros pointed out) it seemed more like a miniprom with 54/s drain, 60 m/s top speed and 215 m/s turbo speed. This way, with it not being a miniprom but something resembling a more versatile sprinting complement to the greyhound. I actually really like this but if the devs give the "no" on the sprint ship idea then I'll just change it back to a miniprom because, in my opinion, Xang Xi and the Revenant need more love than my ship balancing idealism.

And, pirren, thrust is balanced against weight grab a calculator before you call it overpowered. The turbo thrust to weight ratio is as of now just a little bit better than the prom3, but the prom3's cruise thrust/ratio is a bit better (especially considering 65 m/s vs. 55 m/s).

Whoops, sorry Lecter I posted before I saw that you posted. To sum it up, 62/S DRAIN! HOLY SHIT! The change in stat direction was to leave the prom untouched as the top dog of 2S 1L port dogfighting ships. But I'm pretty close to changing back to miniprom stats if people don't like it, because revenants and XX need love.
Dec 23, 2009 ladron link
Out of curiosity, does this even reach its max turbo speed on a single fast charge cell with a reasonable loadout of weapons and cargo?
Dec 23, 2009 Death Jr. link
YES. I would use this ship all the time, though it's balanced enough that I wouldn't fight with it. Perfect! +1

Btw, @ ladron: It doesn't necessarily have to reach its max speed for it to have a max speed. Acceleration 'decelerates' as you get closer to the max speed, so the higher that is the faster you can accelerate.
Dec 23, 2009 ladron link
I'm aware of that, but precedent in VO is that ships hit their max speed way before they run out of power, with the possible exception of a heavily loaded behemoth. It isn't a precedent I agree with, but it is precedent.
Dec 23, 2009 Dr. Lecter link
I don't care what the drain is. It's a fucking RENEVANT. It is the opposite of speedy.
Dec 23, 2009 flyinglama link
I have to say I really like this ship, it looks like it would be good for sneaking into odia and out-running pirates; however, I don't think it will be implemented as it has more thrust than some of the moth variants and a better thrust to weight ratio than any other ship in the game. it is also faster than anything else, which taken together might be the kiss of death. I am also not sure that the dual XX and CV faction requirement is possible right now.
Dec 23, 2009 ShankTank link
Actually, the idea was that it wouldn't be a straight-out cargo runner. Unless it were a single sector, really. But say... a heavy cell with energy or just with flares and this thing could eat up transports in single sector chases. It will also be able to chase down pesky valks if they decide to run, I think. When being chased, however, it's not very good because it will have to stop sometime. When it does run out of energy, though, it will essentially run into a brick wall because of that 55 m/s cruise speed. About the dual faction: I'm pretty sure the devs can pull that one out, hell I can do that with the PCC mission editor.

And Lecter that's not a very valid argument for why such a great ship model should be banished to orun killing forever. The EC sucks more than anything, but the 107 doesn't. Same for the Hornet MK1 and pretty much any ship with an MK1. There needs to be way more ship variety and currently the revenant is the one with the least of them.
Dec 23, 2009 Dr. Lecter link
That's nice. But you just made a low-end cargo scow that's got a higher top speed than any fighter or interceptor in the game.

I mean this in the nicest possible way, but this aspect of your suggestion is

Dec 23, 2009 ShankTank link
Hmmm, my bad. I agree that 40 cargo might be a little too much and I don't think I want its cargo to beat out the CV Maud. It seems reasonable to change the cargo hold to 26. Changing the master post if there are no other objections to such a change.

This is a suggestion forum, not a debate, just suggest a change and a valid reason. It's much easier than making three retarded posts until someone realizes what the hell you want. Please save our time.
Dec 23, 2009 Dr. Lecter link
If you couldn't figure out from the first post that I wanted it to go slower because it's a Renevant, you are just plain ole normal type retarded.
Dec 23, 2009 ShankTank link
Could you be a little more specific in your request?