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ladron... have you tried to dock a fully loaded XC onto a connie going full speed? It sure as hell isn't a piece of cake.
There are two possibilities here: either you haven't tried to do so, or you were just looking for a cheap shot. If it's the former, attempt things before you make your ever-so-"witty" remarks. If it's the latter, you are adding nothing to the discussion, not to mention violating the policies of these forums... cut it out.
There are two possibilities here: either you haven't tried to do so, or you were just looking for a cheap shot. If it's the former, attempt things before you make your ever-so-"witty" remarks. If it's the latter, you are adding nothing to the discussion, not to mention violating the policies of these forums... cut it out.
Tael, I've never suggested that cappies become easier to crack--merely that you mouth-breathing mattress stains not be allowed to dock moths inside them.
In any event, your total inability to apply the appropriate preposition confirms for me the fact that less than half of what I say is getting through your 'English as a distant third language' ears and into your brain. Continuing this delightful conversation is, therefore, not going to be very productive.
Atice, unless it's loaded with ADV rails, it's not that hard--and yes, I have done it. Also, you can stick your own cute little interpretation of "the policies of these forums" into the same orifice from which those aforementioned mattress stains emanated.
In any event, your total inability to apply the appropriate preposition confirms for me the fact that less than half of what I say is getting through your 'English as a distant third language' ears and into your brain. Continuing this delightful conversation is, therefore, not going to be very productive.
Atice, unless it's loaded with ADV rails, it's not that hard--and yes, I have done it. Also, you can stick your own cute little interpretation of "the policies of these forums" into the same orifice from which those aforementioned mattress stains emanated.
"ladron... have you tried to dock a fully loaded XC onto a connie going full speed? It sure as hell isn't a piece of cake."
Atice, you did not get it. The point of escort missions is simple. You should NOT dock your "fully loaded XC".
*** You are supposed to escort not to be escorted. ***
Simple fix. Player flying a cargo class ship or spending more than 10% of the time docked in the capital ship should actually pay a nice price for being escorted.
Your arguments are like if pirates were complaining for failing the mission when they shoot the voy.
Atice, you did not get it. The point of escort missions is simple. You should NOT dock your "fully loaded XC".
*** You are supposed to escort not to be escorted. ***
Simple fix. Player flying a cargo class ship or spending more than 10% of the time docked in the capital ship should actually pay a nice price for being escorted.
Your arguments are like if pirates were complaining for failing the mission when they shoot the voy.
Inco, you're missing the point of my comment entirely. I do not believe one should be parking an XC inside a connie on an escort... what I did object to was the implication that it's a trivial feat.
Regarding my position on whether someone should use a capship escort as an escort... see my OP on the subject above. You seem to have seriously misread my comments.
Regarding my position on whether someone should use a capship escort as an escort... see my OP on the subject above. You seem to have seriously misread my comments.
Right, sorry Atice.
I agree with Atice, I'm pointing out it is not a trivial feat for some. A fun point about the ridiculous effort it takes to do this 'Exploit'...which folks have jumped all over and missed completely that I was making light of the issue. Not unlike what has happened to Atice also. Such is the staggered conversation of a Forum.
Also, the fact folks utilise this exploit should be discussed and I bring up reasons earlier as to why I would do this if I could be bothered. But instead of notions of retaining the flaw.. I'm offering ideas, as clearly there is a desire for this kind of protection at times, but I motion for a notable ingame price if ever implemented.
"You need to escort the convoy to complete the mission."
Inco is right and I have already agreed with previous comments about this issue in other topics and welcome the initial fixes the Devs have come up with. Though a good suggestion there about spending time within a CAP ship, it could be proposed to go even tougher.. have the Mission only allow certain class of ship.. "You expect us to let you protect the convoy in that!?" sort of Mission denial statement by the NPC. (To illustrate my point) and it certainly is a lot more RP.
As this has gone on, I like the thoughts by Atice, Inco and Restayvien alot. They've certainly altered my approach to the issue with regard limitations.
EDIT : Have we discussed how a lucky Trader could use a passing convoy anyhow? (was the original offender even on an Escort Mission?) Should this be a universal lockout? If so, the timer for docking is the overall better option possibly, but what's preventing a player from ducking into the CAP at the right moment still?
Anyhow.. thoughts on neutering the CAPs in general, is a bad idea. They're meant to be tough, I like how Leviathans are difficult to attack and get players coordinating. The same should be said among players attempting to take down CAP ships.
"Continuing this delightful conversation is, therefore, not going to be very productive."
Yah, considering your abrasive manner, insults and complete lack of offering solutions here except to abuse myself and other contributors about the forums, I couldn't have said it better about the majority of your posts myself.
- Taele.
Also, the fact folks utilise this exploit should be discussed and I bring up reasons earlier as to why I would do this if I could be bothered. But instead of notions of retaining the flaw.. I'm offering ideas, as clearly there is a desire for this kind of protection at times, but I motion for a notable ingame price if ever implemented.
"You need to escort the convoy to complete the mission."
Inco is right and I have already agreed with previous comments about this issue in other topics and welcome the initial fixes the Devs have come up with. Though a good suggestion there about spending time within a CAP ship, it could be proposed to go even tougher.. have the Mission only allow certain class of ship.. "You expect us to let you protect the convoy in that!?" sort of Mission denial statement by the NPC. (To illustrate my point) and it certainly is a lot more RP.
As this has gone on, I like the thoughts by Atice, Inco and Restayvien alot. They've certainly altered my approach to the issue with regard limitations.
EDIT : Have we discussed how a lucky Trader could use a passing convoy anyhow? (was the original offender even on an Escort Mission?) Should this be a universal lockout? If so, the timer for docking is the overall better option possibly, but what's preventing a player from ducking into the CAP at the right moment still?
Anyhow.. thoughts on neutering the CAPs in general, is a bad idea. They're meant to be tough, I like how Leviathans are difficult to attack and get players coordinating. The same should be said among players attempting to take down CAP ships.
"Continuing this delightful conversation is, therefore, not going to be very productive."
Yah, considering your abrasive manner, insults and complete lack of offering solutions here except to abuse myself and other contributors about the forums, I couldn't have said it better about the majority of your posts myself.
- Taele.