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May 24, 2006 bojansplash link
Anyone seen any raptors flying around lately?
Ive seen yoda in one a month ago.
May 24, 2006 Norseman link
saw one yesterday a split second, before i pulled my trigger
May 24, 2006 tumblemonster link
I don't think we'll see many of them until there is a higher powered varient. It just can't stand up to, uhm, other ships.
May 24, 2006 RelayeR link
REI is still using 3 of them in explorations.
May 24, 2006 LeberMac link
Nope. Cool looking ship, deathtrap in combat.

Unfortunately, it's a deathtrap precisely because of its interesting shape and form - too many surfaces to hit, too much surface area. It's a helluva target.

Unless you eliminate the backwarsd "tongue" or severely alter its characteristics, it'll never be a combat vessel. May as well make it a FAST racing ship...
May 24, 2006 GRAIG link
...a FAST Galaxy-crossing-ship
May 24, 2006 jexkerome link
Aye, of late the only Raptors I've seen are at the Runs. For real use, they just don't rate.
May 24, 2006 mgl_mouser link
Wich is why I want the Vulture out.

It's the slimmest target out there.

If you remove the Vult, or give it a third dimension, then you get rid of

- The Valk Is A Potato argument
- The Raptor Is Rabbit Food syndrome
May 24, 2006 icbm1987 link
I love my vulture though...

and if you remove the vult... then what replaces it in the Serco backstory and Serco navy?
May 24, 2006 Soulless1 link
...the raptor? :P
May 24, 2006 incarnate link
The vult has about the same frontal area as the modified cent.
May 24, 2006 softy2 link
Aww, why all this vult-hating in a thread about the raptor?

edit : THANKS INC! Vult-pilots of the world, UNITE!
May 24, 2006 jexkerome link
The Raptor needs a role; without it, it cannot be adjusted properly and remain in Uselessness limbo, along with most variants of the maud.
May 24, 2006 softy2 link
Here is what the Raptor needs :

2000 kg mass, 150N thrust, 5.5N/m turn and 4 Small ports, 55 drain.

It'll fly like an IBG with 2 N3s (but easier to hit)

It'll fly like a brick with 4 Flares (so you can't make it a rocket platform)

It'll fly like a hornet with 4 N3s.

It'll fly like no other ship with 4 Phasers (but good luck trying to hit fighters, though it'll kill heavies nicely)
May 24, 2006 thurisaz link
..I'm partial myself to giving it a turbo speed of 200ish and letting it be the only instaboosting light fighter:

-cents are very fast, most manueverable, and can carry more cargo
-vults are also fast and have the slimmest profiles
-raptors are the slowest of the lights, not quite as manueverable, but can infiboost

considering this is a TPG special, shouldn't it be on par with a Valk/IBG/SVG/rC/Atlas-X??
May 24, 2006 roguelazer link
Or just give the Raptor massive forward thrust. Remember, the engine allows thrust for different vectors to be different. So the raptor could have a 900N forward thrust and a 100N lateral (strafe) thrust. I think that'd be cool.
May 24, 2006 LeberMac link
Agreed, a great racing ship, roguelazer.
May 24, 2006 thurisaz link
I dunno, 900 sounds a bit high... at that point EVERYONE'd be running all the races in a Raptor, and that just doesn't sound as fun as the variety we have now.. over-specialization, anyone??
May 24, 2006 LeberMac link
Well, once crafting gets introduced, I'll bet that all the racers tune up their own engines/ships/batts to get that extra edge.
May 25, 2006 Kuvagh link
Leber: "Unless you eliminate the backwarsd "tongue" or severely alter its characteristics, it'll never be a combat vessel. May as well make it a FAST racing ship..."

I disagree. Other characteristics of the ship could be improved to the point that it's an effective ship despite the form factor.

The only remarkable performance characteristic it seems to have right now is spin torque.