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I'm playing not long vendetta, but I miss a small fighter like with only 1 Large Port. That would be great to fly with only 1 Galting Turret... :)
no...
since it would make the cent and vult obsolete...
since it would make the cent and vult obsolete...
A small fighter would suffer horribly under such a heavy weapon, anyway.
/me wants a Valk w/ a MegaPosi (or 2 or 3).
Renegade
Cent and vult would be still good for long range fight. Or if you would like train your Light weapon licence.
Cent and vult would be still good for long range fight. Or if you would like train your Light weapon licence.
jexkerome
What do you mean "suffer", why?
What do you mean "suffer", why?
The Gatling Turret is a very massive weapon, 1400kg (and a number of people would like to see it made even more massive). This means that when you equip it to your ship, your mass increases, which causes your acceleration to decrease. On less massive ships, this decrease in acceleration is a larger percentage.
Example:
IBG Centurion, no weapons: Mass=3000kg, Thrust=218kN, Acceleration=72.66m/s2
IBG Centurion, 1 Gatling Turret: Mass=4400kg, Thrust=218kN, Acceleration=49.54m/s2
So on an IBG, equiping an AGT would drop its acceleration by 31.8% of its acceleration without any weapons.
SkyCommand Prometheus, no weapons: Mass=10000kg, Thrust=535kN, Acceleration=53.5m/s2
SkyCommand Prometheus, 1 Gatling Turret: Mass=11400, Thrust=535kN, Acceleration=46.93m/s2
So on an SCP, equiping an AGT only drops its acceleration by 12.3% of its acceleration without any weapons.
That's why, on a light ship, I'd much rather have a MegaPosi over the AGT. Better damage per second, better damage per energy, and most importantly, less than half the mass (MegaPosi only masses 500kg).
Example:
IBG Centurion, no weapons: Mass=3000kg, Thrust=218kN, Acceleration=72.66m/s2
IBG Centurion, 1 Gatling Turret: Mass=4400kg, Thrust=218kN, Acceleration=49.54m/s2
So on an IBG, equiping an AGT would drop its acceleration by 31.8% of its acceleration without any weapons.
SkyCommand Prometheus, no weapons: Mass=10000kg, Thrust=535kN, Acceleration=53.5m/s2
SkyCommand Prometheus, 1 Gatling Turret: Mass=11400, Thrust=535kN, Acceleration=46.93m/s2
So on an SCP, equiping an AGT only drops its acceleration by 12.3% of its acceleration without any weapons.
That's why, on a light ship, I'd much rather have a MegaPosi over the AGT. Better damage per second, better damage per energy, and most importantly, less than half the mass (MegaPosi only masses 500kg).
gatling ain't that heavy, seeing as a rocket(flare) weighs 1000 kg and a gauss weighs 1000kg. Really there was a reason why the large and small distinction had been made. Not to mention that i have always been in favor of making even more distinctions by adding a medium port type and making gauss + rocksets medium types.
heck just making it able to use 1 jackhammer would make the damage more then even the best rail gun which eats up 100 of your energy and weighs more...
heck just making it able to use 1 jackhammer would make the damage more then even the best rail gun which eats up 100 of your energy and weighs more...
I'd really like a ship with 2 or 3 large ports, that is pretty much a hornet. that'd be a little better.
A 2-large port Hornet variant would be interesting...
I actually had the same thought, Hunterwave. What if the EC-107 Bus Hunter came with 1L port instead of 2s?
That would also be very interesting, Phaserlight. Maybe label it the EC-109?
hmm, perhaps have both the EC-107 and EC-109 available with or after the bus hunter badge (maybe 75 bus kills for the 109?)
oh, and..
LC said:
>>"A 2-large port Hornet variant would be interesting..."<<
EDITEDIT:
A 3-large port Hornet variant would be interesting...
Yes! I like it!
oh, and..
LC said:
>>"A 2-large port Hornet variant would be interesting..."<<
EDITEDIT:
A 3-large port Hornet variant would be interesting...
Yes! I like it!
I still stand by my argument that 3L ports should only be introduced with a new ship type.
ay, if at all the prom should have gotten 3 large prots... seeing as it was supposed to be the supreme bomber...
Someone forgot the Atlas.
Woohoo. There is your ship. Or maybe the Hog? Or even the Tung maud?
Woohoo. There is your ship. Or maybe the Hog? Or even the Tung maud?
So you want to make the AGT more prevalent...?
Its for ships that can't aim, if you put that sucker on a light fighter, its going to be about as fast as a ship with 2 neut 2's, and faster than a light fighter with rails.
This is just plain nuts. Close range fighting will lose all of its luster.
And for those crazy enough to think that neuts will still work fine at long range, the AGT works fine at range, in fact the scatter makes it harder to dodge, you just have to turn autoaim off.
Create a bloody medium port. But don't let the virus called "AGT" propagate any further.
Its for ships that can't aim, if you put that sucker on a light fighter, its going to be about as fast as a ship with 2 neut 2's, and faster than a light fighter with rails.
This is just plain nuts. Close range fighting will lose all of its luster.
And for those crazy enough to think that neuts will still work fine at long range, the AGT works fine at range, in fact the scatter makes it harder to dodge, you just have to turn autoaim off.
Create a bloody medium port. But don't let the virus called "AGT" propagate any further.
how about just new ships in general, we could make fun ships like a uper fast one small port fighter, and a bomber with 4 larg ports and no accel whatsoever, make it like a movie with large ships that can't stand against muliple fighters so they need escorts to operate but are devistating when they do, personally i think this game just needs way more ships and variants, i played years ago and started recently, and was massively dissapointed by the lack of forward motion.
p.s
perhaps this should be new thread.
p.s
perhaps this should be new thread.
I agree with shape. AGT on a lightship...well needless to say F*** that. and the energy consumption on rails isn't as bad as everyone thinks it is, considering you have to take time and aim.
There's plenty of medium sized ships with 1L port that fare pretty well against the Small ships when loaded out with the AGT.
I don't even have access to the AGT, I'm still using the plain jane Gatling Turret... it's pretty effective mounted on a UIT Hog or Axia Wraith.... hell I load up 2 on my rag and it's time for the movies cuz the popcorns'a'flyin
I don't even have access to the AGT, I'm still using the plain jane Gatling Turret... it's pretty effective mounted on a UIT Hog or Axia Wraith.... hell I load up 2 on my rag and it's time for the movies cuz the popcorns'a'flyin