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Self defense flag bug

Feb 07, 2023 dethtag link
Self defense flag bug

Someone docked with my Trident in Dau L-10 and got this warning:
[Tue Feb 7 07:10:18 2023 UTC] Your crewmember attacked A in Azek I-16 and they are now free to attack you without factional repercussions for 15 minutes of in-game time from the most recent hit of either party or until you die.
[Tue Feb 7 07:10:18 2023 UTC] Your crewmember attacked I in Azek I-16 and they are now free to attack you without factional repercussions for 15 minutes of in-game time from the most recent hit of either party or until you die.
[Tue Feb 7 07:10:18 2023 UTC] Your crewmember attacked L in Dau O-6 and they are now free to attack you without factional repercussions for 15 minutes of in-game time from the most recent hit of either party or until you die.

But I was the one who was attacked by all three of these pilots, and I had defense flags against all of them. I edited their names to start with their first initial, as this has nothing to do them.

I am running plugins, but since this is a game issue, I would think my plugins would not affect games issues. I am willing to test farther on the test server if you need me to. ``
Feb 07, 2023 abortretryfail link
Who docked with your Trident? I bet they attacked those people and that's why you inherited their self-defense flags. Why censor the log?

Feb 07, 2023 dethtag link
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1) Zoph docked with my capital ship.I did not inherit defense flags from them, they inherited false defense flags from me.That was from their logs.
2) Names do not go into bug reports.Only into support tickets. See the rules: https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/2/37483
Feb 07, 2023 abortretryfail link
Are you certain those are false self-defense flags? You attacked all of A, I and L in Azek I-16 just like it says.

Docking on a ship that's in trouble for attacking people in faction space it *should* be inherited otherwise the people defending themselves would take a faction hit from the passengers if they killed you like the game says they can.

Now, I don't dispute that there's some bugs with this thing. The messages are ambiguous about who shot who when, and the timeout messages are similarly ambiguous and sometimes seem to show up hours later for inexplicable reasons. That's not what you're seeing here though.
Feb 07, 2023 abortretryfail link
About your point 2: He's saying not to call out individuals for exploiting. None of those people were exploiting anything. There's no reason to censor the names from the logs when they were simply fighting you there.
Feb 14, 2023 incarnate link
Per the logs, everything here functioned correctly.

People had self defense flags, which were transferred on docking to a player capship.

We're going to try and make the message a bit more verbose, to clarify what's happening, but we see no actual bug here.
Mar 11, 2023 IonicPaulTheSecond link
Update: This bug happened to me when I docked with JakP's capship. He previously had attacked two players, and they then received self-defense flags, but fifteen minutes had passed by that point and JakP confirmed they had expired. As soon as I docked, both flags were applied to me.