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Weapon Group Problems

Dec 06, 2020 Ohm link
So I play on Android TV mainly and the new mouse support rocks but I have hit a bit of a problem with weapon groups. Please forgive me if it is known about or effects other platforms but this is the only one I really use (i have pc too but have not had it there I dont recall).

When I sometimes buy a ship and equip it (for example, marauder with 2 flares and a positron blaster) the flares will go to group 1, and the positron to group 2. If I forget to change them around, undock and shoot things (then realise they wrong) and get killed, on rebuy, the hud reticle is bugged out, even after fixing up the weapon groups the targeting bit is waaaaay of. It is almost as if I have only rockets in primary fire still, but my triggers fire correctly.

Steps to reproduce:

Buy a maud
Fit the guns above by buying the energy gun first then 2 rockets (don't change weapon groups)
Undock and die
Rebuy ship
Fix groups so positron is group 1 and rockets are group 2
Undock and HUD target acts as if rockets are in group 1 (jumps behind, no target prediction)

Hope this makes sense? If you log off, and back on and then change groups, this seems to work but it is a little bit annoying. Don't know if this is Android specific, but thats what I use.
Dec 06, 2020 Luxen link
why are you using groups instead of independent triggers?

I have a few more questions, but I'll have to find you in-game for them, I think.
Dec 06, 2020 Ohm link
Because by default, the rockets (if I buy them last to place them correctly) go to the left and right ports, which are, by default trigger 1, and the positron goes to middle, which by default is trigger 2. If you put rockets on primary fire, you get no autofire or auto aim, so I MUST change the default grouping or my guns will not aim properly. The problem arises because I forget to change them sometimes on a new buy, and do not realise until I am already in combat. That isn't such a problem, my fault, the problem is when I die, and rebuy the ship (the bug only affect rebuy it button), setting the groups now does not stick, have to log out to get it working again.

So you HAVE to change the default groups or they will not fire correctly.

I get my english isn't perfect, but I hope you understand the problem now? I'm not actually using weapon groups per-se, just changing the default group.
Dec 06, 2020 Luxen link
okay, see, you say groups when the correct word here is triggers - that was my confusion.

On the other hand, *when you die* and rebuy the ship - not manually purchasing it but hitting the "rebuy lost ship" thing that appears when you die - triggers aren't saved?

Yeah, that is odd, since it SHOULD be saving the triggers. I don't have any advice...

Well, I suppose I should ask if you are using any plugins that might try to save your ship configuration?
Dec 06, 2020 Ohm link
Yes, after clicking rebuy, changing "triggers" does work, the groups change and I can fire with the correct triggers, but the aim reticle doesn't. It jumps about and I cannot aim, as if I have rockets or none-energy in primary fire still. It is visual, but it does affect gameplay too, as while bugged like this I have no auto aim. I have edited my first post to hopefully make that more clear, it is just the targeting that is off, my triggers work as they should.

No plugins were installed when I first worked out what was causing it, and I can repeat this it seems by following the steps above. I now have a few, but it is still happening.
Dec 10, 2020 raybondo link
We found a bug where weapon groups were not saved properly for the last-ship buy-back feature.
It isn't saved if the Group menu is the last one open before the Launch button is pressed.
A temporary solution is to press 'Save Group'.
We will be releasing a fix for that.
A side effect of this issue was that if weapon groups are changed in-flight, they wouldn't be saved for the buy-back feature. This fix will change that.

As for the reticle issue, we are still investigating that.

EDIT:
I believe we fixed the reticle issue as well.
Please report if you continue to have problems after the update.
Dec 13, 2020 Ohm link
Seems to be working so far raybondo thank you very very much for the quick fix!