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PC BSODing/Shutting down only during VO
I login, and sometime between loading up the universe and the first 15 or so mins of playing, when I jump, join a group, dock/undock my PC is BSODing and/or shutting down.
Win7 64bit
No plugins
Fresh Install of VO
Tried all video drivers
Updated my own GPU drivers
This does not happen with any other application, my PC is seeing several weeks of uptime, until it sees VO.
I am going to reformat and reinstall my OS as a last ditch effort.
Win7 64bit
No plugins
Fresh Install of VO
Tried all video drivers
Updated my own GPU drivers
This does not happen with any other application, my PC is seeing several weeks of uptime, until it sees VO.
I am going to reformat and reinstall my OS as a last ditch effort.
Have you looked at what the BSOD is reporting? Open up the event log and look for anything underneath "Critical", so we know what is going on.
should look something like this:
should look something like this:
Basically, a BSOD is indicative of a serious hardware or driver-level failure.
Aside from a driver bug, you might have some kind thermal issue, fan failure, physical cooling problem, current draw on the power supply or other component, or other issue which happens to be exhibited by running the "load" of running VO.
The fact that only VO happens to reproduce the problem is, unfortunately, irrelevant.
This is not an issue in VO itself, nor anything we can possibly fix.
You might also try running memtest continuously for several days, along with other burn-in test cases.
Aside from a driver bug, you might have some kind thermal issue, fan failure, physical cooling problem, current draw on the power supply or other component, or other issue which happens to be exhibited by running the "load" of running VO.
The fact that only VO happens to reproduce the problem is, unfortunately, irrelevant.
This is not an issue in VO itself, nor anything we can possibly fix.
You might also try running memtest continuously for several days, along with other burn-in test cases.
After a bit of digging, it seems like for some reason the previous Nv driver was still installed while having a radeon driver installed, going to remove it and see if it helps.
I passed a 13 hour memtest a couple weeks ago, I'll try again. I don't think it is a thermal issue, since I monitor my temps and keep them below manufacturer maximums(speedfan), and I have the correct fan configuration to direct the cool air from the bottom and expel the hot air from the top, back and front.
It's possible some other piece of the puzzle hardware wise is failing, if anything fails I'm going to just install Linux alongside a fresh install of windows, and if all that doesn't resolve it then I suppose I'll have to play swap and drop until the problem stops.
Thank you.
- System
- Provider
[ Name] EventLog
- EventID 6008
[ Qualifiers] 32768
Level 2
Task 0
Keywords 0x80000000000000
- TimeCreated
[ SystemTime] 2018-06-16T23:21:18.000000000Z
EventRecordID 153718
Channel System
Computer YEET-PC
Security
- EventData
7:19:32 PM
6/16/2018
4255
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Binary data:
In Words
0000: 000607E2 00100006 00130013 031C0020
0008: 000607E2 00100006 00130017 031C0020
0010: 00000960 0000003C 00000001 00000960
0018: 00000000 000004B0 00000001 00000000
In Bytes
0000: E2 07 06 00 06 00 10 00 â.......
0008: 13 00 13 00 20 00 1C 03 .... ...
0010: E2 07 06 00 06 00 10 00 â.......
0018: 17 00 13 00 20 00 1C 03 .... ...
0020: 60 09 00 00 3C 00 00 00 `...<...
0028: 01 00 00 00 60 09 00 00 ....`...
0030: 00 00 00 00 B0 04 00 00 ....°...
0038: 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- System
- Provider
[ Name] Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
[ Guid] {331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}
EventID 41
Version 2
Level 1
Task 63
Opcode 0
Keywords 0x8000000000000002
- TimeCreated
[ SystemTime] 2018-06-16T23:21:04.343617200Z
EventRecordID 153723
Correlation
- Execution
[ ProcessID] 4
[ ThreadID] 8
Channel System
Computer YEET-PC
- Security
[ UserID] S-1-5-18
- EventData
BugcheckCode 0
BugcheckParameter1 0x0
BugcheckParameter2 0x0
BugcheckParameter3 0x0
BugcheckParameter4 0x0
SleepInProgress false
PowerButtonTimestamp 0
I passed a 13 hour memtest a couple weeks ago, I'll try again. I don't think it is a thermal issue, since I monitor my temps and keep them below manufacturer maximums(speedfan), and I have the correct fan configuration to direct the cool air from the bottom and expel the hot air from the top, back and front.
It's possible some other piece of the puzzle hardware wise is failing, if anything fails I'm going to just install Linux alongside a fresh install of windows, and if all that doesn't resolve it then I suppose I'll have to play swap and drop until the problem stops.
Thank you.
- System
- Provider
[ Name] EventLog
- EventID 6008
[ Qualifiers] 32768
Level 2
Task 0
Keywords 0x80000000000000
- TimeCreated
[ SystemTime] 2018-06-16T23:21:18.000000000Z
EventRecordID 153718
Channel System
Computer YEET-PC
Security
- EventData
7:19:32 PM
6/16/2018
4255
E2070600060010001300130020001C03E2070600060010001700130020001C03600900003C000000010000006009000000000000B00400000100000000000000
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Binary data:
In Words
0000: 000607E2 00100006 00130013 031C0020
0008: 000607E2 00100006 00130017 031C0020
0010: 00000960 0000003C 00000001 00000960
0018: 00000000 000004B0 00000001 00000000
In Bytes
0000: E2 07 06 00 06 00 10 00 â.......
0008: 13 00 13 00 20 00 1C 03 .... ...
0010: E2 07 06 00 06 00 10 00 â.......
0018: 17 00 13 00 20 00 1C 03 .... ...
0020: 60 09 00 00 3C 00 00 00 `...<...
0028: 01 00 00 00 60 09 00 00 ....`...
0030: 00 00 00 00 B0 04 00 00 ....°...
0038: 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- System
- Provider
[ Name] Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
[ Guid] {331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}
EventID 41
Version 2
Level 1
Task 63
Opcode 0
Keywords 0x8000000000000002
- TimeCreated
[ SystemTime] 2018-06-16T23:21:04.343617200Z
EventRecordID 153723
Correlation
- Execution
[ ProcessID] 4
[ ThreadID] 8
Channel System
Computer YEET-PC
- Security
[ UserID] S-1-5-18
- EventData
BugcheckCode 0
BugcheckParameter1 0x0
BugcheckParameter2 0x0
BugcheckParameter3 0x0
BugcheckParameter4 0x0
SleepInProgress false
PowerButtonTimestamp 0
Okay, at idle my PC CPU(FX-6100) is at like 60c which is fucked, when I run VO I hit the limit until it shutsdown/BSOD's in like 180 seconds.
So far this is what I've tried to resolve it.
Refreshed CPU cooler(Dedusted/cleaned and repasted with a thin layer of paste)
Reformatted/Reinstalled OS
Checked CPU pins
Fresh install of VO
Installed a larger CPU cooler
Tested thermal sensors(Touched CPU cooler while PC reports high temp, it burned me)
None have made even a slight impact, I'm guessing my CPU is failing? Anything I'm missing?
EDIT: I have taped up some duckwork from my rooms A/C vent directly into my PC case, and placed 3 frozen water bottles in front of my intake fans. VO still roasts my CPU into a shutdown, I can play PUBG for 12 hours straight(among other games) however.
What gives?
So far this is what I've tried to resolve it.
Refreshed CPU cooler(Dedusted/cleaned and repasted with a thin layer of paste)
Reformatted/Reinstalled OS
Checked CPU pins
Fresh install of VO
Installed a larger CPU cooler
Tested thermal sensors(Touched CPU cooler while PC reports high temp, it burned me)
None have made even a slight impact, I'm guessing my CPU is failing? Anything I'm missing?
EDIT: I have taped up some duckwork from my rooms A/C vent directly into my PC case, and placed 3 frozen water bottles in front of my intake fans. VO still roasts my CPU into a shutdown, I can play PUBG for 12 hours straight(among other games) however.
What gives?
Can't be the CPU going bad if it can handle PUBG for 12 hours (and the game is terribly optimized for PC) and cant handle VO. Maybe its a bad line of script the PC is reading and is restarting.
EDIT: fyi you shouldn't do that with your AC, fucks with the air handler and causes the blower to work harder.
EDIT: fyi you shouldn't do that with your AC, fucks with the air handler and causes the blower to work harder.
No idea if this will help your case, but I was running into a something like this last summer. My fix ended up being completely power related. I ended up replacing my power supply before realizing that my power strip was giving up the ghost. Bax is right about your AC, you are going to fuck up your condenser or circulator motor, and if you are running into power issues you're just going to spike the already bad draw by making the AC "work harder". It was driving me nuts because like you, certain games didn't seem to be causing the crash (like PUBG), but then I figured out I was just playing it during the day when it was hot, so no extra draw from window units. Hope it helps.
I've already tried three PSU, one new. All overkill. Ill plug it directly into the wall but I'm overheating during the night in a room 66F if I run VO I roast the CPU to 93C or whatever the limit is before shutdown.
Edit: plugging into the wall didnt help my overheating
Edit: plugging into the wall didnt help my overheating
So, VO will spin up threads on a lot of cores by default, where.. I have no idea what PUBG does. We may be a lot more "multi-core intensive"? Maybe?
This doesn't explain anything about why your CPU is overheating when more cores are in use (obviously, that should not happen in a healthy system), but it might explain a difference in thermal intensity between the two games.
You could try setting:
multithreaded=0
..under the "[Vendetta]" section in config.ini.
You could also try setting doshadows=0 in the [directx11] section.
That will at least drop the usage of the number of cores, which might help you. But, really, if your CPU cooler is getting too hot to touch.. that seems bad? CPU heatsinks can get pretty warm, but I don't usually burn myself on them?
There could be some weird situation where the voltage regulator on the motherboard is dying, and when the CPU gets super loaded, the CPU-fan gets a voltage drop? So like an escalation in heat results in.. an even worse spike in heat? Motherboard voltage regulation was always a bit of a challenge on the FX series (we have a bunch of 8370s).
But, that's just a vague theory, with zero evidence to support it.
I'd also just try doing 6-core stress testing? Like maybe using y-cruncher or some other software (I haven't tried any of this stuff, use at your own risk). Multi-core video encoding can be a decent test as well.
This doesn't explain anything about why your CPU is overheating when more cores are in use (obviously, that should not happen in a healthy system), but it might explain a difference in thermal intensity between the two games.
You could try setting:
multithreaded=0
..under the "[Vendetta]" section in config.ini.
You could also try setting doshadows=0 in the [directx11] section.
That will at least drop the usage of the number of cores, which might help you. But, really, if your CPU cooler is getting too hot to touch.. that seems bad? CPU heatsinks can get pretty warm, but I don't usually burn myself on them?
There could be some weird situation where the voltage regulator on the motherboard is dying, and when the CPU gets super loaded, the CPU-fan gets a voltage drop? So like an escalation in heat results in.. an even worse spike in heat? Motherboard voltage regulation was always a bit of a challenge on the FX series (we have a bunch of 8370s).
But, that's just a vague theory, with zero evidence to support it.
I'd also just try doing 6-core stress testing? Like maybe using y-cruncher or some other software (I haven't tried any of this stuff, use at your own risk). Multi-core video encoding can be a decent test as well.