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May 22, 2014 Rallen Bosessen link
For the devs:
Make cargo variable protected on android. Was able to change my mass with that. Minus mass = massive acceleration to any direction. Used that to avoid boda, and he's pissed with me now.
May 22, 2014 incarnate link
Thanks, we'll check into this shortly.
May 22, 2014 Dr. Lecter link
Where's that ban hammer?
May 22, 2014 Inevitable link
At the least revert all the cargo he transferred abusing the bug.
May 22, 2014 Dr. Lecter link
Why waste the Dev time parsing that out? Just zero out his credits and inventory.

Saves Dev time and incentivizes actually reporting bugs rather than abusing them until caught and then coming here to apolo-brag about how clever and helpful a bug exploiter you are.
May 22, 2014 Rallen Bosessen link
Server sided cargo variable is unchangeable. Changing cargo visually on client side doesn't change your items on server.
May 22, 2014 Rallen Bosessen link
And boda was the first and the last victim of this hazardous bug. So no big cries and jellies for not being as smart as me.
May 22, 2014 Dr. Lecter link
So no big cries and jellies for not being as smart as me.

Such contrition. Sadly, the Devs will either ignore this, or, just give you a written 'slap on the wrist' admonition not to do it again.

But I'd have to shed about 100 IQ points to be as smart as [you], kiddo.
May 22, 2014 abortretryfail link
And boda was the first and the last victim of this hazardous bug.

I doubt it. This kind of explains some things I've seen in the past...
May 22, 2014 Rallen Bosessen link
For example?
May 22, 2014 greenwall link
Wait -- so there is a way to make your cargo have negative mass? W....T......F.

That is a HUGE bug.

Liud plays quite fair in game, so I highly doubt he abused this. Nothing wrong with him having a little fun with it as he explored the various depths of the bug. How else to accurately report it?

Dr. Lecter is irrelevant.
May 22, 2014 Inevitable link
He wasn't exploring the bug. When confronted he laughed and told me he wouldn't be abusing it if I would just let him pay.

Then I mentioned about telling the Dev's and it seemed like he got scared, because he quickly apologized.

Tbh, I thought it was kind of funny. I thought he was just doing something to lag really bad. I had a bot in c2 and I was watching him drop cargo and try to pick it up and I was thinking, "Haha damn that kid fucking lags".... Little did I know.





Now I don't really care that this happened. It's good that this bug was found out or else someone smarter may have abused it a bit differently(imagine how fast you could build a trident or the advantage you would have in fights weighing a bit less than you should or making weapons weigh less so you can make credits faster, or raising standings which I think is what he was doing at the time).But no greenwall he wasn't exploring it. He was exploting it because he has so few good ships on his lite account that he doesnt want them destroyed (Liud told me this the night before).
May 23, 2014 incarnate link
Look, our primary goal at this point is to address the issue. To his credit, Rallen Bosessen has (privately) gone to some lengths to help out in this regard, working directly with Ray, and we'll take this into account.

I'm not going to comment on administrative action at this time, but in general, if someone finds a bug, they should report it to us before being pushed to do so by some external situation. We've had plenty of people find bugs before, and report them without external attention being brought to their activity, and this is generally what we expect of people.

Anything else is basically exploitative, and frowned upon to different degrees.

For the moment, we're focused on the bug itself. And that's all the commentary I have for now.
May 23, 2014 Kierky link
I wonder how many bug reports BR1 has filed on me for apparent lag hacks lol. Now that would be a funny ass read.
May 23, 2014 Rallen Bosessen link
@Inevitable This bug way more hazardous than "lighter weapons". I did some testing with my friend, some hours ago before meeting you. Killing a ship with this bug is impossible. Hits are just not registering.
Anyways, I feel sorry that I did that. I admit I exploited the bug to my personal benefit, trying to save my ass from dying.
I fully understand if I get banned.
May 23, 2014 Rallen Bosessen link
And I don't see how raising standings could work. I was trying to transport a moth to serco space.
May 23, 2014 Death Fluffy link
I'd say this calls for extreme disciplinary action. And for such, I formally recommend that Rallen be made to co-star in the next Touriaus / TRS flick tentatively titled "Money Won't Buy That Klondike Bar"
May 23, 2014 Pizzasgood link
"And I don't see how raising standings could work."

Well, if it lets you accelerate faster, that means you could traverse space faster, which means you could haul cargo faster, which means you could complete proc missions faster, which means you could raise standings.... wait for it.... faster. Same goes for crafting, trading, etc.
May 23, 2014 davejohn link
"But I'd have to shed about 100 IQ points to be as smart as [you], kiddo."

/me waits for this overpaid twat of a lawyer to tell us how clever he is in Lithuanian.

Really Lecter, sometimes you try to be clever and end up exposing how stupidly arrogant a preppy over priveliged rich kid can be.

Rallen is playing on android in a second language ( which he speaks very well ). He has identified a bug, tested it, and reported it.

So Lecter, rather than make yourself appear incredibly like a petulant child why don't you just keep your mouth shut and let the active players and the devs get on with moving the game forward?

( sorry if that is harsh inc, but there are times when the rope given to some trolls should hang them )
May 23, 2014 Dr. Lecter link
I'm sorry, did you say anything relevant to the situation that actually unfolded, as reflected in Inevitable's posted logs, Ecka? Perhaps you edited that part out, rather like you missed Rallen being the first to bring how clever he is into the thread?

All that said, it sounds like you've got some case of UK dole sitter jealousy going over there. If only people would take all those VO credits you've amassed, spending your doddering years here in VO!