So, you docked as missiles were exploding, never got a kill message, and can't reproduce the problem? How is this a bug then?

You're probably right in that "the rats" were using the strike force to kill you. All of that would be solved by making the NPCs aware of what's in front of them so they don't fire on friendlies because a hostile is hiding behind them. No "he shot first!" bullcrap necessary.

"I would think figuring out who did what would be easy but I know the situation gets a lot more complex as real time is somewhat flexable and while the server does have all the info there is simply not enuogh time to check every possibility."

I'm sorry, but what the fuck are you talking about? Bob fires his gun. The bullet hits you. The game applies damage and sees that your health hit 0. It looks at the owner_id on that bullet and sees that it was Bob who killed you. The end.

Well Arf since I didnt explode and I was in an XC I dont see how I could have even damaged the strike force much less kill one.

Yet somehow the server decided I did kill one and made me temp KOS for it.

Where's the screenshots of your sensor log killed list?

You were obviously not TempKOS or you wouldn't have been able to dock.

Good catch arf... This whole thing sounds like a plot to get XCs exempted from kos so Pak can go around exploding on new players without repercussions.

And yet I did dock...
Sorry - I didnt take a screen shot
I wasnt even aware of the KOS until I undocked again

Exploits are your thing Savet - some of us actually play VO for reasons other then the pvp.

For whats its worth:

This sounds to be like after the event of the pirate shooting you undocked as the SF NPCs were undocking/docking, probably got to close to a (neutral) seeker before you saw what happened.

This has happened to me before a long time ago, and is difficult to reproduce but I think it is possible.

Correct me if I am wrong.

The only other thing I can think of is an easy test, when seekers explode onto a (previously) friendly target, does that count as you inflicting damage to them? I would bet someone already knows the answer to this, and it is easier to reproduce.

I undocked after only 10 seconds and the rat was still in the system as far as I know.
I did have a strike force kill listed on my sensor log so the temp KOS portion was in fact correct - The error was my being charged with killing the SF in the first place.

Just a quirk the devs need to hunt down.

Or... you could try to figure out how to reproduce the problem which might help the devs actually fix it?

Yeah I could have the rat spam me with flares or whatever while I dock....

I have no idea where he would find someone that would be willing to shoot at him...

>Sniff<

Dont you love me anymore Savet?
You use to care enough to hunt me down and rape me everyday....

We're not allowed to joke about rape anymore.