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[Sat Jul 27 05:24:15 2013] ping: 248.2 +/- 15.2ms
bps out: 176 in: 1167
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:25 2013] (group) [Sedina D-14] <Ancient Panther> Targeting a Corvus Marauder Mercenary (75%, Serco), "[RED] Kopia Onol", at 823m
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:29 2013] (group) [Sedina D-14] <Snk> Targeting Plasma Cannon MkIII (1cu) at 112m
[RED]Kopia Onol: Left radar range.
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:33 2013] ping: 250.1 +/- 5.5ms
bps out: 176 in: 1167
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:33 2013] <Kopia Onol> LOl
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:33 2013] <Snk> Lag
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:33 2013] <Snk> Fucking traffic 2
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:33 2013] <Kopia Onol> I blame AP
[RED]Kopia Onol: Left the sector.
[RED]Kopia Onol: Out of range.
*[RED]Kopia Onol: Corvus Marauder Mercenary - 100% health 758m away :: I:Hate S:Admire U:Neutral L:Admire
[Itan]Snk: Left radar range.
[Itan]Snk: Left the sector.
*[Itan]Snk: IDF Valkyrie Vigilant - 100% health 815m away :: I:Admire S:Kill on Sight U:Admire L:Admire
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:43 2013] <Ancient Panther> it's the fake traffic
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:44 2013] [1] <Chris Droskyn> t
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:44 2013] [202] *** Transport delivered 15 units to Catequil Outpost.
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:48 2013] ping: 242.7 +/- 10.2ms
bps out: 176 in: 1167
[RED]Kopia Onol: Left radar range.
*[RED]Kopia Onol: Entered radar range. Is at 100% health and is 977m away.
[Sat Jul 27 05:24:59 2013] ping: 244.6 +/- 7.7ms
bps out: 176 in: 1167
[RED]Kopia Onol: Left radar range.
*[RED]Kopia Onol: Entered radar range. Is at 100% health and is 373m away.
[RED]Kopia Onol: Left radar range.
*[RED]Kopia Onol: Entered radar range. Is at 100% health and is 652m away.
[Sat Jul 27 05:25:34 2013] <Kopia Onol> LOL
[Sat Jul 27 05:25:35 2013] ping: 244.5 +/- 8.5ms
bps out: 225 in: 1112
[RED]Kopia Onol: Left radar range.
*[RED]Kopia Onol: Entered radar range. Is at 100% health and is 630m away.
[RED]Kopia Onol: Left radar range.
[Sat Jul 27 05:26:04 2013] ping: 243.8 +/- 12.7ms
bps out: 225 in: 1112
*[RED]Kopia Onol: Entered radar range. Is at 100% health and is 885m away.
[RED]Kopia Onol: Left radar range.
*[RED]Kopia Onol: Entered radar range. Is at 100% health and is 1198m away.
[Sat Jul 27 05:26:09 2013] People in the room: spidey, PhoenixVoice, Ancient Panther
[Sat Jul 27 05:26:10 2013] You are now in Sedina V Hold (Corvus Research).
[RED]Kopia Onol: Left radar range.
[Sat Jul 27 05:26:15 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-14] <Snk> Targeting a Corvus Marauder Mercenary (100%, Serco), "[RED] Kopia Onol", at 262m
*[RED]Kopia Onol: Entered radar range. Is at 100% health and is 2296m away.
[Sat Jul 27 05:26:41 2013] (group) [Sedina D-14] <Ancient Panther> oh yeah righto
[Sat Jul 27 05:26:45 2013] (group) [Sedina D-14] <Ancient Panther> fuck that
[Sat Jul 27 05:26:50 2013] ping: 240.7 +/- 9.5ms
bps out: 201 in: 1279
[RED]Kopia Onol: Left radar range.
[PA]PhoenixVoice: Left the sector.
[Itan]spidey: Left the sector.
[Itan]Snk: Left the sector.

[Sat Jul 27 05:27:03 2013] You are entering Sedina D-16

[Sat Jul 27 05:27:06 2013] (group) Snk destroyed Kopia Onol
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:11 2013] ping: 241.6 +/- 11.7ms
bps out: 166 in: 1195
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:25 2013] (group) [Sedina D-16] <Ancient Panther> empty sector gonna watch my bps in go way down
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:28 2013] ping: 241.7 +/- 10.5ms
bps out: 166 in: 1195
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:35 2013] (group) [Sedina D-16] <Ancient Panther> waiting for refresh
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:38 2013] ping: 239.0 +/- 7.5ms
bps out: 166 in: 1195
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:39 2013] [100] <Kopia Onol> got to go VO, see ya later
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:43 2013] ping: 238.7 +/- 11.2ms
bps out: 166 in: 1195
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:45 2013] ping: 237.5 +/- 8.5ms
bps out: 166 in: 1195
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:46 2013] [100] <David-Lister> o/
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:46 2013] (guild) [Dau D-9] <Sideburns> who is reclining chair?
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:53 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-14] <Snk> Duno
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:53 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-16] <Ancient Panther> member
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:55 2013] [100] <Snk> Cya
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:56 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-16] <Ancient Panther> Niki
[Sat Jul 27 05:27:59 2013] ping: 241.7 +/- 10.2ms
bps out: 166 in: 1195
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:03 2013] ping: 238.8 +/- 7.0ms
bps out: 166 in: 1195
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:04 2013] ping: 239.8 +/- 8.5ms
bps out: 166 in: 1195
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:05 2013] ping: 242.2 +/- 11.2ms
bps out: 166 in: 1195
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:06 2013] ping: 242.0 +/- 12.2ms
bps out: 166 in: 1195
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:06 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-14] <Snk> Reclining chair is niki?
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:09 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-16] <Ancient Panther> yes
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:12 2013] ping: 246.0 +/- 12.0ms
bps out: 22 in: 217
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:14 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-14] <Snk> o
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:16 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-16] <Ancient Panther> THERE
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:24 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-16] <Ancient Panther> 217 bps in out in here
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:28 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-16] <Ancient Panther> falling
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:33 2013] (group) [Sedina A-8] <Snk> 10 kills 2 deaths
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:39 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-16] <Ancient Panther> and it's like 1200 in sedina d14
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:40 2013] [1] <tigercj> hh
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:43 2013] Your Nav Computer has plotted a course to Sedina D-14

[Sat Jul 27 05:28:48 2013] You are entering Sedina D-14

[Sat Jul 27 05:28:49 2013] ping: 235.8 +/- 5.0ms
bps out: 22 in: 217
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:54 2013] [201] *** Itani convoy scheduled to depart from Bractus Watch in five minutes.
[Itan]spidey: Out of range.
[PA]PhoenixVoice: Out of range.
[Sat Jul 27 05:28:57 2013] (guild) [Sedina D-14] <Ancient Panther> here we go
[Sat Jul 27 05:29:09 2013] ping: 241.6 +/- 8.0ms
bps out: 31 in: 327
[Sat Jul 27 05:29:09 2013] (group) [Sedina D-5] <Snk> Is there a track in every -5 sector?
[Sat Jul 27 05:29:19 2013] (group) [Sedina D-14] <Ancient Panther> 327 when no fake traffic
[Sat Jul 27 05:29:30 2013] (group) [Sedina D-5] <Snk> Report it to the devs
[Sat Jul 27 05:29:39 2013] (group) [Sedina D-14] <Ancient Panther> I'm videoing
[Sat Jul 27 05:29:51 2013] (group) [Sedina D-14] <Ancient Panther> waiting for fake traffix
[Sat Jul 27 05:29:54 2013] ping: 244.2 +/- 10.7ms
bps out: 31 in: 327
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:02 2013] [100] IRC_ <Mr. Chaos> sounds like a personal problem.
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:14 2013] (group) [Sedina D-14] <Ancient Panther> here they are
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:16 2013] ping: 239.3 +/- 7.7ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:23 2013] [100] <David-Lister> s'up chaos
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:23 2013] ping: 245.2 +/- 11.2ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:26 2013] ping: 247.8 +/- 10.5ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:27 2013] ping: 243.6 +/- 7.7ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:27 2013] ping: 244.1 +/- 9.7ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:28 2013] ping: 244.8 +/- 9.2ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:28 2013] ping: 244.3 +/- 11.0ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:29 2013] ping: 243.3 +/- 10.7ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:32 2013] ping: 241.1 +/- 7.0ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:33 2013] ping: 238.3 +/- 7.7ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:34 2013] ping: 240.8 +/- 7.7ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:41 2013] ping: 242.1 +/- 8.0ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:44 2013] ping: 250.1 +/- 12.7ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:47 2013] ping: 243.5 +/- 7.7ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:56 2013] (group) [Sedina D-14] <Ancient Panther> 271 before
[Sat Jul 27 05:30:58 2013] ping: 245.3 +/- 11.2ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:31:02 2013] ping: 245.6 +/- 13.0ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:31:02 2013] ping: 244.3 +/- 9.2ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:31:03 2013] ping: 243.7 +/- 6.5ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:31:04 2013] ping: 242.3 +/- 6.2ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:31:04 2013] ping: 242.3 +/- 6.2ms
bps out: 58 in: 271

Around here the fake traffic neared the station.

[Sat Jul 27 05:31:05 2013] ping: 241.5 +/- 5.5ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:31:05 2013] ping: 240.5 +/- 6.2ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:31:06 2013] ping: 239.5 +/- 7.7ms
bps out: 58 in: 271
[Sat Jul 27 05:31:06 2013] ping: 240.7 +/- 5.5ms
bps out: 186 in: 736
[Sat Jul 27 05:31:17 2013] (group) [Sedina D-14] <Ancient Panther> 736 after fake traffic!

*looks for his picard facepalm picture*

You do realize how miniscule that still is and that it makes perfect sense for the metric you think proves lag to go up as the amount of objects in the sector increase.

By the way it doesn't prove lag.

anyways enough ridicule, i'll wait for a dev to come spell it out for you.

For someone with large enough latency it can overthrow incoming network traffic and significantly throttle it. It might be miniscule for someone on <100ms ping, but not for people who live 2 continents away.
It's not miniscule anyway, a sector with 3 players in it, fake traffic, plus SG's and SF gives a stupid amount of jumpy shit lag (>16x the normal amount of an empty sector with a few roids)

EDIT: For the record I'm on 100Mbps Ethernet ADSL2+ connection at the time of these logs.

736bps shouldn't be a problem. That's tiny, so tiny that you shouldn't even notice on your 100Mbps line regardless of what side of the planet you're on. If your line can actually do 100000000bps, what makes you think an increase from 271 -> 736bps used by the game is going to saturate the link and cause drops or latency?

What about Hive Skirmishes? Border Skirmishes? "Real" convoys? Bot sectors? Any busy sector should show an increase in bps down since there's more stuff the server has to tell your client about.

I don't see much other explanation. I get massive lag anytime there is a BS, HiveSkirm, masses of players, station sectors. It's making it kind of really hard to play when it used to be very good.

Well, that obviously means that fake convoys are not the problem.

i lag whenever convoy enter sector but i think problem is jamming up stations. i think plugin targetless cause of lag though

Plugins do slow things down and since targetless accesses the radar a lot all the additional ships are going to add time to it,

If the lag really bothers you then remove targetless and check it again.
There may be a way to have targetless slow its scanning which might help some but you would need the author to tell you how,

Kierky you noob. We already know why there is lag and it has nothing to do with the fake convoys.

[Sat Jul 27 05:30:44 2013] ping: 250.1 +/- 12.7ms
bps out: 58 in: 271

See the imbalance in bps out/in, and there is like 5 times more in than out; that is the mission system feeding a constant stream of data taking priority over flight dynamics and other data. It's a new change they implemented right when I stopped playing.

This is the kind of lag it creates. Also this sort of thing.

I troubleshooted it with ray over a support ticket and we identified that the change to the mission system updates in space was the likely cause, I am waiting patiently for a fix so I can continue to play VO.

tl;dr, Kierky is noob, it's not fake convoys.

either way, fake convoys are fucking stupid.

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Yeah, they kind of are. Why not just have intra-system traffic with cargo ships that actually deliver cargo to stations instead of just a ton of bots that spawn and clutter around?

+1 TBF fake voys are stupid annoying and pointless

No, empty convoys are stupid. Fake empty convoys are straight-up downright bullshit.

Yep, they can fuck right off. And the lag presented by the server for no apparent reason. Lol rin.