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May 15, 2011 Captain86 link
Hi

I've noticed the following subjects in Deneb

-Itan Teradon shoots and destroyed a Serco Con with 4 shots fired (not shields down) but exploded
-When no other itan players in the missions Itan shields can be dropped on first bomb run everytime, but with 1) itan player present the Trident shields won't drop on the first run for no apparent reason.
-ragnarok explosion sounds present where there is no ragnarok nor any other ships present in close range
-I flew off into deeper space because I wanted to see if there were any ships following or shooting that I could not see, I kept hearing the ragnarok explosions that they make when bombing on tridents etc. But while sitting in deep space and listening to the explosions all the sudden an explosion with debris everywhere. So it appeared to emulate the debris of a Con ship explosion with me in the center but there was no other ships around just appeared from no where. Additionally I had no damages with armor at 100% as it should but debris flying around
-Additionally in some missions I noticed the con ships of both fleets were exploded with no ships firing on them and they were no longer showing in the list, however the itani con explosion said many casualties but did not take them off the count, while the serco con explosion did not indicate casualties however the count went down.
-tridents shields going down while nothing is fireing at them sitting in deeper space
-I said this already but want to mention this because this is the most annoying - Con ships take light hits to explode or light hits for shields to drop, but itan Con seems to have double the shield power many times while being hit but multiple ships such as: teradon,2)tridents and heavy cruiser shields still up while itan teradon takes down the shields in very few shots with 1 ship
-Additionally missions start sometimes with 3-4 itan ships surrounding a single lonely serco con and getting pounded but only briefly to explode quickly.
-jump in locations jump right into itan con ship which seems to be firing turret fire before you materialise in sector; and causing heavy turret damage to less then 6% even explode instantly before you can access any controls.
-The worse annoyance/bug is the sometimes double count of the score sometimes even while your waiting for a mission and there are no other missions to take yet the itan score goes up with regular gains sometimes more then 1,2 or 3 score increases while waiting for a mission and yet the serco count never goes up under this wait period.
-Sometimes itan count goes up with a win of more then 1 point sometimes 2,3 I have observed this quite frequently while losing a large skirmish. This seems to be more consistent in the large skirmishes and not the small or fighter missions. but even when NO other missions are going on and no others to choose only the large there will be point increases of more then 1 score.

Well that about does it happy hacking
May 17, 2011 CrazySpence link
uhhh...no?
May 17, 2011 abortretryfail link
It sounds like you were lagging... bad.
I've seen some pretty silly things happen in large skirmishes but they're usually attributable to lag.

When in doubt, say something on sector chat. You'll see exactly how bad it is if the message does not immediately appear on your client in green.

Also, I've done border skirmishes on both the Itani and Serco sides. They work the same for both. Seriously!
May 17, 2011 Captain86 link
Today more of the same just minutes ago a Serco Con was getting hit by a few ships not unreasonable but it was the Con was at 100% and the itan ships were not taking down the shields because it was just a couple tridents.
As I was docking the Con exploded as I entered the dock and not just shields but exploded and thus losing he large skirmish or at least would be very hard to recover at that point.
Additionally I noticed that many times in large skirmish there is a lone serco Con and many itan tridents,Con,Teradon sometimes a couple of each. If thats not completely bogus I don't know how there is any way to win that at all. Perhaps just enjoy the combat in spite if no hope of winning I guess.

Additionally regarding the subject:
Everyone seems to always resort to a lag issue or at least suggest it but I'm not convinced in an age of high speed everything.
I actually had Comcast Business Class and switched to Fios because this is what many were saying even with no real evidence of lag that could be diagnosed or proven to have any packet losses.

I diagnosed this subject thoroughly and did not feel there was any lag but switched to Fios in spite just to see.

But in short if there is lag I cannot find anyone to prove it or properly diagnose this conclusively in anyway.

After switching to Fios game play seems only slightly better in that my hit registrations are consitent, however from time to time I do see some jitter but only infrequently.

I have to assume this is a bug unless I can confirm otherwise.

And the real pain is the score board ringing up on it's own with no missions going on at all. When we are all waiting for missions to start because there are none. And itan gets a score 1,2,3 maybe more sometimes while waiting. LOL

Still fun overall but a bit annoying
May 20, 2011 Captain86 link
Here is another report

Yesterday when in the Deneb wars I get this message warning me that I fired on npc he's on our side and gives me a warning etc etc.
I figured OK I must have accidentally targeted and shot my own which I did not think I did but figured that I must have.

So I load up and take a last bomb run on the Trident for the kill, and the message says your now out of the group you've been warned, so I had to go all the way back to the station to re enter the engagement which was about to end because only 2 more kills for the win.

There was no other friendly ships around the trident which could have been damaged so this message was bogus.

Additionally I frequently see friendly ships that seem to be targeted as enemy ships or in red on the radar so I'm always watching out for this topic prior to firing.

Anyhow just FYI
May 20, 2011 Captain86 link
Today most of the day other serco were noticing that that teradons were not firing on the enemy ships

I followed up and noticed the same thing
Teradons just sitting in front of the connie or other ships taking hits, not firing.
Occasionally it would fire the turrets on some fighters but never on the other ships and never the heavy weapons.
Firing the turrets at fighters was light and intermittent at best.

Additionally count on the scoreboard seems to continue even when NO skirmishes are going on. No missions to take and nothing to do but watch the itan score go up by 2 points while waiting to engage in the next mission.
This is a frequent occurrence
May 22, 2011 abortretryfail link
Yep, there's a problem with Teradons getting stuck and not firing their main guns. It happens to the Itani side too.
May 28, 2011 davejohn link
yep , the whole war in deneb needs a serious sorting out . see posts passim .
May 30, 2011 CrazySpence link
teradon vs connie is the only problem i agree with in this entire thread.

To work around it take out the nose turret on the connie, the tera will still not move in on its own but if you ram it from behind until it fires its engines it will move into a better firing solution and it should finish the job
May 31, 2011 Captain86 link
more......

Today 6 serco in deneb things appear working as they should, well at first big surpise NOT.
Hitting tridents like clockwork as usual at first seemed normal.

All the sudden ammo does no damages, can't take down tridents even when hitting in teams.
5 players hit the connie while coordinating with a trident and teradon that was hitting it and 0 damages connie didn't even drop to 99%

Hitting teradon was simple enough but same problem unload a full stack and 0 damages 100% no damage.

This sort of continued as we went from winning to losing sort of quickly as the teradon took out our connie in about 4 hits which seem quit usual.

Our teradon on the other hand just sat there watching the whole thing while our trident seem to love moving in the middle of a itani connie,teradon, and heavy cruiser. A suicide missions for sure.

As I watch at least 3 tridents do this one after the other, and then watch our heavy cruiser now also sitting there doing nothing and getting hit by a itani rag and never fired back.

It just turned and move for a sec and then sat there some more without ever firing it's weapons.

Serco connie recipricated with it's suicide missions into the middle of the itan teradon,heavy cruiser, and 2 tridents with now a 3rd on the way lol

What fun this was watching all the serco ships commit suicide from what was a winning position to a complete big time loss.

Ending with our last connie wanting to take on a teradon and 2 tridents again as it moved to intercept for some reason on it's own without it's own teradon or heavy cruiser which were just sitting back watching without firing any weapons

Guess our bundle of NPC rag pilots must have also went out for lunch because they did not seem to exist in no capacity as the itani rags which seem to come out of no where one after the other.

Also what appeared to be turret fire coming from space from some non existent ship in large numbers taking use out a few times. No one knew where it was coming from.

Oh well, think i'll give deneb a rest for 6 months or so after this week it's too unrealistic.

Check back to the post later.

Happy posting
Jun 01, 2011 Captain86 link
.....continued

Actually there is too many things to list honestly it's something new everyday

I only posted the worst things.

Today in small skirmish the serco trident is not in the group so it's not in white, and cannot be found for docking.

After taking down the shields on the itani trident I found that there was no way to find the serco trident and thus would be too costly in time and credits and in principal to keep going back to the station simply because the serco trident cannot be found.

It was on the sensor log but simply out of range or perhaps not really even in this area of space since it could not actually be seen with a white dot on radar which would be typical.

I think I will have to give up on the deneb until they get this worked out it's just not fun any-more with all these things going on.
Jun 02, 2011 abortretryfail link
Oh yeah, I've seen some small skirmishes where there's no group at all. I put in a bug report for that a while ago. Dunno if it does it to both the Itani and Serco sides of the same skirmish.
Jul 25, 2011 abortretryfail link
THREAD NECROMANCER!!!!

I had a small skirmish today in Deneb P-12 with no group for the Itani side. There was a group for the Serco according to one of the players on the other side.