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Moral ramifications of separate VO economy based on player slavery

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Mar 18, 2017 Sieger link
Bojan - Except that nobody is doing what you said. I for one don't give a shit if you wanna blow 150 bucks on a 2 year sub so you can have an alt with the best k/d. Or if - rules concerning account-business aside - you want to trade for yoda's beta account. Why would I care about it? GS is at benefit in all those scenarios. You would have no advantage over me in the game. If we were to meet in a sector and dueld it out, I would still kill you most likely. Your super k/d or your shiny beta-only badge won't make you suddenly magically have super powers which can make people randomly explode as you pass them.

If you felt offended or betrayed by something like this, you'd be crazy. You'd be a clown. Or do you have a good explanation that doesn't make you look like one?

Look, I'm sorry you don't find much agreement here, except maybe by the guy from ONE there. But as Harpo put it: It's a non-issue. The hypothetical business you outline up there isn't even happening. Blaqk is simply offering an alternative way of getting a subscription. People get a choice this way if they'd like to work for some credits and save their real money and have Blaqk pay for it. Or they can use their own cash. GS ends up with the money EITHERWAY. This is a common thing in other subscription games, as mentioned by the Specter dude. It is NOT a problem...

myacumen - Nope. All I had to do has already been done long ago and is still in effect: It makes some losers like you MAD. It makes them log into their anonymous forum alts and RAGE in every thread. In their frustration, they voice their sadness about "what has happened to the game" and they cry and sob. And that's hilarious. :-)
Mar 18, 2017 myacumen link
So you are proud about cheating and getting caught and then finding a way to do it again that circumvents the rules?

Classy
Mar 18, 2017 Sieger link
No. I am taking delight in your frustration.
Mar 18, 2017 Stella Bovinus Collective link
Nobody is doing it yet except Blaqk.

I just posted a couple of hypothetical scenarios on how this practice could escalate to undermine every possible game achievement in VO and turn it into a classic example of completely morally corrupt pay-to-win mockery of a game.
Mar 18, 2017 Sieger link
I got that, Bojan. You'd have a big point if the beta badge was something else than an acknowledgement for those who've been around in a while.
You'd have a point if anyone gave a HOOT about the k/d and if it had some meaning. Look, you cannot even SEE the k/d of other people unless you stumble upon them in space and target them and hit k. And there isn't even a k/d for PvP. To calculate that for anyone, you'd literally have to do the math. The k/d we have right now is calculated by all kills/all deaths. It's irrelevant.
There is no ranking for a k/d or a prize for the player with the highest k/d. Nobody gives a shit about the k/d. Your point is moot.
(Besides, with the k/d we have right now, somebody could just NOT spend 150 bucks to get the best k/d and instead shoot down 10,000 Orun Collectors. For free... And he'd have the best k/d. Grats!!!)

You see man, the scenarios you mentioned are crap. It will most likely not happen. And if it does... who'd give a shit? I'd sure as hell would not. And if you do... you're a clown in my view. It's not like VO is one of these crazy-ass mainstream games where some people are CELEBRETIES when they have the highest-something.

I will agree with you and change my opinion if you present to me one scenario where it really becomes game breaking that somebody trades a sub key for some in-game content.
Mar 18, 2017 Stella Bovinus Collective link
I am really sorry if you are too blind to see the big picture of where this is going and foresee how will it end.
Posting more hypothetical examples in pointless, you obviously lack the imagination on how this practice can be exploited to the max.
Mar 18, 2017 Sieger link
So your counter-argument is: I have no good examples (which is what "It's pointless to give you other examples" translates to...). BUT I can see in the future and it's like the end of VO.

Got it.

I suppose we're glad to have some true oracle up here in VO then. Lol.
Mar 18, 2017 myacumen link
Expecting sieger to care about exploits is like expecting Ted Bundy to care about murder.
Mar 18, 2017 Gavin Mcinnes link
Outside of the spending irl money for credits being something that shouldn't be allowed, it's also a stupid and lazy to way to play the game.
Mar 18, 2017 Stella Bovinus Collective link
No Sieger, I am keeping the best ideas to myself.
Let's just say I will have lots of characters with tridents & goliaths, all my characters will be able to buy UC cells from stations, I will have endless supply of hive posis and gats, IHDPC cells, TU mines, avalons (you name it I I'll have it) on all characters and I will have all badges imaginable in VO just for bragging rights since all game achievements will be rendered worthless anyway.

I will also have a virtual army of paid minions that will do my bidding at the wave of my finger.
In fact I will own VO.
It will become boring shortly so I'll probably go looking for another morally corrupt game which I can destroy by doing exactly the same Blaqk is doing in VO now.

OH yeah, and I will do all that without lifting a finger in game and only swiping my credit card a few times.
GS will get the money so it will be fine.
Mar 18, 2017 Mi5 link
I am spending USD for subscription keys Gavin.
Mar 18, 2017 Stella Bovinus Collective link
Of course you are.
/me facepalms



Let me elaborate what you wrote here step by step so you could understand it.

1. you do not purchase VO gift keys in advance

2. you advertise selling gift keys to players in exchange for 100 to 980 million credits or equal value of trident parts (one month to one year worth gift key)

3. when player accepts your offer and delivers you either credits or trident parts of equal value - you go to GS payment page, purchase a gift key

4. you send a gift key code to the player who already paid you with credits or equal value of trident parts

5. you just bought in game credits or equal value of trident parts with RL money

6. the other party sold in-game credits or equal value of trident parts to you in exchange for RL money (gift key)
Mar 18, 2017 Mi5 link
I am in agreement with you, I am.
Mar 18, 2017 DOOMSTARDOOM link
Blaqk helps people by selling them subs for game credits but if that is legal then why vendetta online items buying for real cash is against Eula/Game rules ?
My point is allow both or dont allow any of them ---
Mar 18, 2017 DOOMSTARDOOM link
And dont pay any pirate cash first - u cant do anything if he give u expired key
Mar 18, 2017 Ata-wa solick link
A guy who pays a void guild pirate first would be dumbass he most likely to give expired key/ or run after taking cash dont buy anything from Void
He is just making newbies slaves by paying for their sub /
The person will get inside that shit more and more ---
What can a newbie do if he gives expired key ? He is old and rich player ! And still he dont go first -- then why the heck a newbie give 100million to. A pro pirate
Mar 18, 2017 Mi5 link
What a horrible attempt at using multiple forum accounts to doublepost.
Mar 18, 2017 Ata-wa solick link
Oh hey blaqk i mean Dilan Rona lol
Hows Ems nowadays
Mar 18, 2017 Mi5 link
Rails Mk2 has been fixed hehe, credits just went up in value.

Oh, and I could be anyone.
Mar 18, 2017 Ata-wa solick link
So blaqk told devs to fix odia rails trade cuz noone was buying sub from him =
You cant stop players from getting rich blaqk