I don't agree with the premise of your question. But I am not frustrated in the least about the level of TGFT leadership participation in these absurd going ons.

all these people continue to beat the dead TGFT horse...

I'm trying not to lock everything. Howabout you all help out with that?

I removed a bunch of non-RP bickering. Feel free to posture over guilds in-character (within reason) but stop the constant bickering.

"don't object to conflict

"This is a game of conflict, cherub. Bring a gun."

drama that typically goes along with these conflicts."

This is a GREAT thread!

DON'T OBJECT + THIS GAME IS MINE = DRAMA!

Whistler knows if he locks the thread another thread will pop up to replace it, and if he locks those ones eventually a thread bashing mods will appear.

I'm pretty sure the answer is to let the bickering go on.

Threads bashing mods are not a deterrent. The same arguments by the same arguers need to stop, preferably as a result of people monitoring their own actions. By all means continue rp guild chest thumping.

Holy crap......I did not expect this many replies....

Well,none of you know this but I left TGFT,however,I still consider them friends. On the other hand I still think of TGFT as a good guild,even with it's problems. But on a other note all guilds have their pros and cons,sadly. But,the reason why I left TGFT because I was ticked off at Itani Nationalists mainly SKV. I only did this to help out TGFT (just how I am.) But again back to my point here;if TGFT won't make peace then why don't you guys do? I heard from a SKV member they tried to send about three surrenders (this was I was in TGFT),I asked a member he said they got no such thing sent to them. Also TGFT tried multiple times to make peace with one so saying TGFT leadership is corrupt is just false...

(Oh,I'm a Serco Nationalist now,sorry that I wasn't clear beforehand.)

Holy shit punctuation, batman!

My bad wasn't paying attention...so many commas......

Let's call that a brain fart.

You're making zero sense, Cron-Wo Bashios. SKV (bojan specifically) offered terms of surrender twice publicly on the forums. Guess what TGFT did? They said na-da and did na-da to negotiate.

Hey Cron I understand you are probably young, I am guessing early to mid teens, but it is torture reading your comments. I suggest keeping your forum posts short and simple, and refrain from attempting to start threads and make non-existant points. Thanks bud.

Can't Everyone just have a Good Time?

No.

*sigh* Why can't Itan high command just take the lowest common denominators of our society, strap suicide explosives to thousands of cheap ships, and make "human wave" style attacks through grey space, ending all of your miserable lives?

I guess we can't all get what we want. Man up, everyone in this thread

Cron, tgft is targeted because people like soft targets and traders tend to fly ships that are soft and heavy. The way I look at it, TGFT can only be as neutral as the nationalist guilds are willing to permit. As a simple, neutral trader, I also find that frustrating. But, I relieve my frustration with my nuets when take a small break from my trading, mining and building activities.

Just a thought for EP and SKV... maybe you've made your point with TGFT by now

tgft is targeted because people like soft targets and traders tend to fly ships that are soft and heavy.

If that is so, do you mind explaining why other trading/manufacturing guilds such as TRI and INV aren't targeted despite having plenty of soft targets? You might not be the brightest person in the world, but the one thing that you really excel at is playing dumb.

The way I look at it, TGFT can only be as neutral as the nationalist guilds are willing to permit.

Whining that others don't share the same definition of neutrality as you do is just plain silly and absurd. That's simply not how negotiation/diplomacy works. Your guild is known for the "our way, or the highway" attitude, not negotiating until a compromise is reached that makes all involved parties happy.

joylessjoker, I have no idea why those other guilds wouldn't be targeted. They could be paying for protection, like pirates are paid, or they could be really good at grabbing their ankles for the nationalists. The nationalists could also just feel sorry for those guilds and they don't want to see them disappear.

You might not be the brightest person in the world

Neither are you, joyless, as you continue to make evident. And I mean that strictly in an RP sense, as I'm sure you did, right?

Out of context much.

I think perhaps it was meant in an RP way, but I think the word choice was a bit much for our the current state of our RP efforts.