TGFT becoming popular among intellectually challenged players...

Hey now, [TGFT] has always been the guild of choice for intellectually-challenged players.

I think that TGFT use to be a great guild. It was a nice place for the aspiring traders, a great place for noobs. I think if given the chance TGFT could return to that state. Of course that would only be possible if the players who are anti-TGFT could let bygones be bygones, and the same would have to apply to TGFT. From GREYs standpoint, I am cautiously ok with TGFT. I would love to see a more active presence from them, as far as assisting new players. But again, the conflicts between and TGFT and their enemies would have to be resolved, which takes some putting aside of egos from one or both sides. I have had to suck it up and apologise for my actions to maintain positive relations since forming GREY. As hard as it may seem, I think it is more beneficial to TGFT, and the playerbase, to fix broken relations.

Fly swiftly and aim well.

I think that TGFT use to be a great guild. It was a nice place for the aspiring traders, a great place for noobs.

Carebearism is never a good thing to have in a game. Carebearism absolutely goes against the spirit of conflict and drama. Without conflict and drama, you cannot have fun. Is GREY going to be another of those hated guilds infecting VO with the carebear sickness?

Don't be ridiculous, joyless. There is as much a need for kindness (aka common courtesy) in VO as there is for the rougher aspects. Particularly when it comes to player retention. Although I am now familiar and happy with the challenging combat aspect, if I had only seen "conflict and drama" when I first started playing, and no so-called "carebearism," I would not have stayed.

To each one his own, I guess. If I had only seen carebearism when I started playing, I wouldn't have stayed. What made me stay was the excitement of grayspace - always needing to watch out for pirates before becoming one myself. The fact that they are players wanting to smash my brains out, not NPCs, made it even more lively and fun.

It was guilds like TGFT that made me doubt my decision to stay. They make everything so fucking easy, no challenge is no fun.

If there was no conflict or plot in a movie, only people wooing and ahhing at each other, would you watch it?

If a movie only had people screaming profanities at you, being cruel, demeaning, abusive, and insulting, would you watch it? Obviously the answer for you, joyless, is yes, you would. Which is why your fucked up opinion serves no purpose other than for me to ridicule when I have time to kill.

Actually, if a movie contained only profanity, insults, and nothing else I would consider it boring because it's predictable.

Conflict and drama create unpredictability. Without unpredictability you cannot be entertained.

Would you watch a boxing match if you knew it was rigged? Would you watch the election results coming in on TV if you knew elections were rigged?

Carebearism is predictable, therefore it is boring and has no place in game.

Defining "conflict and drama" only by terms of PVP and immature taunting and verbal abuse is completely ignorant, so it makes sense that you'd support such a definition.

And, if by "carebearism" you mean "preference for avoiding PVP", then you need to take that up with the devs. VO is a sandbox game, and trading is long established and dev-encouraged style of gameplay. TGFT has long been one of the most popular guilds with the most active subscriptions. Clearly choosing a style of gameplay that doesn't have it's entire focus on PVP is a valid choice and is good for the game.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to shoot someone who prefers to be neutral in game, but there IS something wrong with saying they have no place in the game.

You want ethics? How ethical would it be to shoot people with calcium-stealing rays? Yet we should tolerate miners? Asteroids have the right to not have the minerals ripped out of them. Every time you assholes equip a mining beam and start raping a roid just so you can make a few credits or a bulkhead, you are trampling on that roid's inherent rights. But it's worse than that. Humans -- even Serco and Itani -- generally have the right to live out their lives. When you ravage the asteroids, you are putting everybody's lives at risk. There are far more asteroids than people out there. How long do you think they're going to put up with your oppression? They will revolt, and all of the blood they shed will be on your grimy hands.

This is why I fight. This is why I murder you idiots. For every scumbag I kill, that's another day? hour? minute? that I push back the start of Armageddon. Even a single second multiplied across a few billion innocent lives is worth more than the life of one evil miner, to say nothing of the anguish I save the poor asteroids it would have molested.

And for this heroism you brand me Pirate, Terrorist, Monster, and you ostracize me from your society. So be it! I will tear your filthy society apart ship by ship and feed its wreckage back to the roids whose aching bodies you built it from, and the stars will laugh with me as I do it. Their twinkling fusion grins guide me to the beautiful explosions you are doomed to become.

Serious ethical question for Rin: what's your stance on the ethical permissiblity of 'roid broiling, i.e., using extremely inefficient mining beams on asteroids in order to heat them to extreme temperatures and thereby reduce both the chances of future mining and the amounts of ore they would lose?

Ain't nothing wrong with a sauna, 'specially when you give the ore right back.

/me is confused