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Lol Arc, I get Hitania and Jm, you have Fenix and Stick. :) Fair is fair

zam... your pick, SQ1 or SQ2.

[flame removed] (c'mon, you knew it was a flame)

Probably, FM, we'll make a lot of enemies through this.

/Me wonders if the DS and the Vipers will start having "turf-wars" over jurisdiction. That would be cool.

Meh, I don't want zam in my squad...

Camps, update your first post;) (I should hope I get the Webmaster position;)

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/Me wonders if the DS and the Vipers will start having "turf-wars" over jurisdiction. That would be cool.
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/me chuckles

Squad 2

Meh, I just dont like the "Im a DS, you do what i say or die" thing.

The Vipers just kill pirates and station-nuker-exploiter people, they dont try and enforce some iron rule :P

OK, Zam's in squad 2.

All positions:

Ambassador to CD: SirCamps (currently)

Vault: SirCamps

Webmaster: Fenix

Squadron 1 (under SirCamps):
Defense Ship 4 (Squad 1 Leader): SirCamps.
Defense Ship 10: Jm262.
Defense Ship 13: Hitania.

Squadron 2 (under Grim Battol):
Defense Ship 6 (Suad 2 Leader): Archon / Grim Battol.
Defense Ship 7 (Squad 2 Fighter): Stick.
Defense Ship 9 (Squad 2 Fighter): Fenix.
???????????????? (Squadron 2 Fighter): Zamzx zik

Fenix: It isn't "your" squad, but Archon's. I gave Zam a choice, and he picked 2. You better learn to like him, because he's your wingmate.

Heheh.

/me growls

Well, it's not do what I say or die. Its stop attacking me/those under my protection or die. Big difference dave.

"Meh, I just dont like the "Im a DS, you do what i say or die" thing."

What Dave? You mean you dislike it when someone says:

Sep 22 18:19:02 <vendetta> Itani: <Defense Ship 4> "Ezekiel": learn this now, we are the police, we can kill you if you misbehave.

(Note: that's an EXACT quote out of IRC logs cut and pasted EXACTLY as it appeared.)

I'm SHOCKED Dave! No, I'm FLABBERGASTED!!! (said with HEAVY sarcasm for the sarcasm impaired)

Fur this isn't the place to flame, take it in-game or in another "WE HATE THE FACIST DS'S!" thread. This thread is for discussion, not sarcastic flaming.

It may have been strongly worded, but it's just a different way of saying what I said earlier about my problem with the DS. It's a valid point. I would be much more comfortable if WE, as in the Vendetta community, decided what violations constitute an attack from a DS. As it stands, it just seems like a self-righteous gang.

Pavan, we are not acting with the community's advice or consent, but then again, neither are the Vipers, or anyone else who hunts pirates. I say this because as others have said, the community is in bad shape, and is in no way ready to offer credibility to the existence of one group over another. This ain't a democracy. We're an independent "Defense Consulting and Operational" cell.

Since the FM didn't remove furball's post, I'll respond to it:

I think it can be generally agreed that attacking someone without provocation is a bad thing. I had showed Ezekiel the sector 10 station, as he was a newbie and was curious. Later on, Wilo and I were chatting outside it and he came in with a quad-gauss hornet and blew up Wilo. I asked him what it was for, and he said he meant to kill me. (d'oh) I asked why, and he said because I asked for 100m breathing room around my ship. (what?) I killed him and told him why (he killed Wilo). I later asked him to compensate Wilo for his ship, since Wilo was also relatively new, and was not that rich. Then he went into the "I don't owe any **** pilot **** anything" tirade. I killed him once more and told him I wouldn't anymore if he'd just give 20k to Wilo. I only received insults and swearing back.

Ok, plus -

AS A GUILD we can determine who we want to kill. If you have a problem with that, then fine. Deal with it. But if we say "Hey, (insert name here) keeps attacking non-hostiles, so we're gonna blacklist him" and you don't like it, it's not YOUR job to tell us not to. We arent the police, but we have a set of ethics and if you don't follow them, we're going to blacklist you. That's why we're a guild and not an in-game police force :-).

Well, we will be bit of a police force once the guild structure is implemented, and governments can hire us.

We just choose to make ourselves hostile to those that attack others. Got a problem with it?

To be a police force would mean that there are laws that the community IN GENERAL agrees on. And then THEREFORE you have been chosen BY THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL to ENFORCE those laws. You have not been chosen NOR are there laws to BE enforced.

So at BEST all you are is a group of mercenaries for hire.

I have NO problems with you killing whoever you wish as we know, SirCamps used to enjoy killing new players but that's "old" history. :) I DO have a problem with you attempting to pretend that you are the LAW when you are not or that you have the moral authority to enforce said laws when you don't.