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Oct 02, 2009 Impavid link
We won't care.
Oct 02, 2009 Dr. Lecter link
Edited for ya, Tumble ;)
Oct 02, 2009 shlimazel link
And there you have it. The finest reason to not pay a rat as related by pirates; you can pay them, but that doesn't mean they won't kill you.
Oct 02, 2009 vskye link
Don't speak for everyone shlimazel.
Oct 02, 2009 shlimazel link
Well, all rats except nice rats like Vskye.
Oct 02, 2009 Dr. Lecter link
you can pay them, but that doesn't mean they won't kill you

Way to fail to define "them" and "they". [VPR] morons.

If you pay me, I will not kill you; though I will not always offer you the chance to pay me. The more generous and easy to work with a trader is, of course, the more I'm likely to always offer them a chance to pay me -- relationship building is important.

Unless you arrange it explictly, paying a pirate who also happens to be a member of a guild of pirates will not keep other guild members from pirating/killing you.

What the Hell do you trader scum expect for the cost of running into a pirate once, full immunity for the rest of your game session from anyone with a gun!?
Oct 02, 2009 Impavid link
To clarify, in general, if you pay one of us, the rest will leave you alone. That said, if you are unhappy that you are still killed by a different pirate, we won't care. Traders who are determined not to pay are more likely not to get the offer, and Vipers get no offer as they're just as likely to be killing traders as pirates are.
Oct 02, 2009 Wild Thing link
"To the extent you're referencing the actions of [CHRN], we don't care."

later:

"[...] relationship building is important"

Which one is it now?
Oct 02, 2009 Wild Thing link
Impavid, that was how I understood it. Thanks for the clarification!
Oct 03, 2009 Dr. Lecter link
Both: I only promise you safe passage from me, but that promise does mean something. Particularly if you want to get the offer even when I catch you in an XC full of ADV rails or something else juicy. The real relationship to build is one where you more or less pay the pirate every time you cross paths, and in return the pirate doesn't overcharge and/or kill you when you really want to keep breathing for some reason like a timed mission or a valuable cargo.

If you want safe passage from all CHRN just by paying one of us, we'll have to work something out and it would undoubtably cost more. It is unreasonable to expect that by paying one guilded pirate the same thing you'd pay a solo pirate, you get protection from the whole guild. Like I said before, if it worked that way, all pirates would have an economic disincentive to join guilds.
Oct 03, 2009 blood.thirsty link
That's a lot of words to explain something so obvious.

My preferred part in this thread can be summarized:

hail, aim and shoot.

(collect too if applies)

Bleed Well : )
Oct 03, 2009 FatStrat85 link
Heh. Blood Thirsty is awesome.
Oct 03, 2009 Wild Thing link
If you want safe passage from all CHRN just by paying one of us, we'll have to work something out and it would undoubtably cost more. It is unreasonable to expect that by paying one guilded pirate the same thing you'd pay a solo pirate, you get protection from the whole guild. Like I said before, if it worked that way, all pirates would have an economic disincentive to join guilds.

Yes, expecting that would be unreasonable indeed. However, (as I previously said), I didn't expect or assume *anything*. I expressly negotiated guild immunity.
Oct 03, 2009 Dr. Lecter link
Alright, whatever you say. Having no details on whatever specific situation you're whining about, I won't comment further.