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Bidi Baba is forming a new guild: GRU

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Dec 27, 2006 yodaofborg link
Quote Bidi Baba : Now, what is being a "dick?" That is up to the leadership (Council) to define ultimately. For now it is simply commonsense... there is no rule that says you cannot use swarms... but if you are constantly swarm-spamming? You are a dick. You can run sometimes... but if you run all the time? You are a dick. You can kill newbies (better to teach em a lesson and let 'em walk imho), but only kill newbies? Or kill the same newbie more than once or twice. Well... that'd be being a dick. Etc, etc.

We are mostly experienced players, we know how to play and have fun, and if your idea of fun is to make others miserable... you are a dick. This does not mean that everyone is going to be happy that we just blew them up and they now have to repeat some long haul bulk trip or something... But unless THEY are dicks, they will realize it is part of the game and ultimately adds enjoyment. If they don't? Fuck 'em.... but don't GRIEF (specific personal vendettas excepted) 'em... or you are deriving pleasure from another's suffering... and you are a dick.

Shall I repeat myself some more, or did I make my point? ;)


Didn't that answer your question? I'm pretty sure its a universal feeling about *what is being a dick*.

Of course, you can be a dick without doing any of these things and just shooting off your mouth! But meh, flares and jacks may break my valk, but words will never harm me.

:P
Dec 27, 2006 TRS link
Sounds like your dodging the question(s).

So far Tumblemonster is the only one that has named anyone, and he named two people and two complete guilds. While the two people mentioned might or might not qualify, I'm hard pressed to believe that a major Serco guild, and a well known trader guild, are both comprised solely of "dicks". Either Tumblemonster's opinion is representative of this new guild, or it isn't. But nobody in the guild seams to want to say which.

Your generalizations are subjective, and overly convenient, with a built in back door (quote: "specific personal vendettas excepted").

While I commend your attempt at setting an honorable standard for your membership, I think it will simply be used to exclude unpopular applicants, while being completely ignored by the base membership.

I would like to know who you have excluded or intend to exclude, and if that exclusion was based on your stated philosophy, or otherwise.

Posting another dodge would strike me as a confirmation of my concerns.
Dec 27, 2006 Lexicon link
That guy LeberMac is a total dick. He shouldn't be in ANY guild.
Dec 27, 2006 chillum baba link
Look... comment as you wish as long as you follow the forums rule: Be Nice!

No flame wars please... Though my response was more strongly worded than it could have been (perhaps I need to follow the rule more closely myself), that is the gist.

EDIT: "Look..." does not refer to look... no hands. :)
It's just that thing you do sometimes before beginning a speech...
Dec 27, 2006 chillum baba link
And TRS... no-one is excluded, except based on their actions as a guild member... i.e. no-one will be excluded but some will flunk out.

EDIT: Let me name the chosen (my choice... changeable (of course) by council) "political system:" Meritocracy... (The best lead the rest.)

If you are not potential council (or officers)... you don't belong on the faculty. This is intended to be a school (as well as a guild). Only the cream of the crop will be invited to stay on and teach (and ruthlessly plunder). The rest will go forth, diplomas in hand (unless they flunk out of course)... to form their own guilds, free-lance, or join another pirate guild (or trade guild even... many people never use their "education," and hell, we'd be teaching stuff very useful to traders actually). (Hence Anti-Pirating 101, for the general population.)

(None of these ideas may be workable, hence my NOT being the permanent "Dear Leader.")

EDIT: erm... Two hences in the same post? How... pompous... I suppose I could change one (or both) more easily than writing this edit... but... whatever.
Dec 28, 2006 chillum baba link
I guess I should give some reply to Bolo...

In order to join the guild you must be in game at the same time as me (so I can invite you)... I am online alot, so just check the Active Players page every so often I guess. As soon as I decide on two Lt.'s it will be easier to get in. (3 times as many people with /guild invite power) (These will (probably) be temp Lt.'s as I want Council to pick the two rather than me alone.)

I am Bidi Baba in game btw.
Dec 28, 2006 vIsitor link
Bidi Baba, I would like to inquire a question about your guild for the purposes of a political perspective on [GRU]. Frankly, I don't like you or your pirate guild, and you certainly don't like me, but for the sake of being civil I request an objective response to my inquiries.

1) Does [GRU] have, or will it have, any preferences for the nationality of its members?

2) Do you expect, or intend, that [GRU] will have rivalries with existing pirate guilds, or do you wish to work cooperatively with them (when applicable)?

3) Will you make it clear what tactics your guild will employ, or will you let [GRU] members fight as they please?

4) Do you actually plan to do anything with [GRU], or is it just a joke guild? You don't have to be specific, a simple yes or no will suffice.

5) Will [GRU] take an active stance against the vehemently anti-pirate [VPR], [TGFT], and [CDC] guilds, or will you be passive-aggressive in that regard?

6) What are your *ahem* professional opinions on some of the major players in the VO universe (i.e. Miharu, Borb, Lexicon, Ghost, Smittens, Tumblemonster, etc.)

Thank you, that will be all.
Dec 28, 2006 chillum baba link
vIsitor... I don't know who you are, other than someone who has posted in some threads I have also posted in. So I don't know why you think I don't like you... And I don't know why you don't like me or my guild. I also don't know what you mean by a "political perspective," perhaps I would if I knew who you were. However, since I AM civil, I will provide responses... "objective" is an impossibility as I am in fact a... person.

1) No. (Nationality doesn't matter to us... it may to you. UIT is the easiest pirate nationality.)

2) No. (Rivalries or cooperation... unless applicable)

3) No. (I will not make it clear.)

4) No. (It is not a joke guild.)

5) No. (We will not take an "active stance", nor will we be "passive-aggressive.")

6) No comment.

You are welcome.

EDIT: Fine, I added clarifications. But you do realize he is trolling right, look... no hands? Last 3 questions especially.

Definition of passive-aggressive for instance: of or denoting a type of behavior or personality characterized by indirect resistance to the demands of others and an avoidance of direct confrontation, as in procrastinating, pouting, or misplacing important materials.
Dec 28, 2006 look... no hands link
I couldn't understand much of Bidi's answers there. No to which parts? Most were either or questions that can't be effectively answered with a simple yes or no answer with the obvious exceptions of 1 and 4. Also the last question was answered sufficiently.

note: I'm not trying to be an ass here, I just don't understand your answers.
Dec 28, 2006 Lexicon link
Captain "Nice" Harddrive thinks I'm a major player!
/me LMAO

Although, I WILL take credit for allowing Root Baba (Bidi Baba) to become a pirate. It was thru LeberMac's death in nationspace that he was able to tank his standing and become the ruthless pirate leader that he is today.

(Yay!)
Dec 28, 2006 tumblemonster link
Let a CDC in the guild too... CDC plus Cunjo.... Ick.
Dec 28, 2006 vIsitor link
I appreciate your being straightforward, Mr. Baba. Though brief, your responses to each of my inquiries have been most insightful, and may yet help in future dealings between us in the future.

You know little of me, which is understandable seeing as that I have not been space-side for over a year, and I was of little note in the period that I was. I intend to eventually return, and I plan to set a number of events into motion when I do, but until then I am merely another lurker here. I have no love of piracy, as you may have already surmised, but I am willing to tolerate your kind so long as you play by the rules (few though those that apply be).

I consider those who are involved in our little universe's significant machinations to be 'major' players, regardless of their actual influence or skill (although greatness in the latter two oft determine the former). I understand entirely why you declined to comment, and I accept your judgment on such.

I thank you for your time,
-CNH
Dec 29, 2006 look... no hands link
EDIT: Fine, I added clarifications. But you do realize he is trolling right, look... no hands? Last 3 questions especially.

Yes I realize he was trolling but I got curious about the answers to his questions.
Dec 29, 2006 Dr. Lecter link
Ugh, pretentious rag-driving n00blet. Someone kill it.
Dec 29, 2006 chillum baba link
First of all... WTF is wrong with Cunjo? I have never understood your dislike for him... he's always been pretty ok to me. Secondly... Annihilat0r is in GRU.

Alts are alts... if a person can play one as a dick (assuming Cunjo does) and one as a pirate... good by me. (Maybe toss that alt-checker of yours... seems to be making you miserable honestly, or at least angry too much of the time.)

And Tumble... I consider you a friend... but do you really think that you have never been a dick? Don't you think that maybe it's time to stop throwing stones?

EDIT:
Erm... no wait, I can remember a few times I wanted to strangle Cunjo, and especially the player behind Cunjo... :)
And I have been quite angry at the players behind Erik, Joyce and Miharu at times...

So I am not without sin either.
Dec 29, 2006 genka link
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Blah blah blah blah blah blah. BLAH! Blah blah blah blah blah blah!
Dec 29, 2006 Dr. Lecter link
For once I agree with genka.
Dec 29, 2006 chillum baba link
I know. No worries. :)
Jan 01, 2007 yodaofborg link
Just wanted to say thanks to Bidi, for inspiring me in my latest project! http://nickspoon.phpnet.us/gp2xcgc/ :)
Jan 02, 2007 chillum baba link
ROFL... nice job yoda. No, "Light Lamp?" Or was the reviewer just dumb? (I guess I need a GP2X to run it? WTF is a GP2X? Downloaded it anyways.) ;)

EDIT: Ok, I know what a GP2X is and I'm not buying one. :P
So... can I run it under Darwin? Probably not eh...

EDIT: On closer inspection, it could be a fun toy. Still not buying one...