Cool, I'm two of the top 4 duelists.

Hey a1k0n, here's a thought for you. Would it be possible to link up duel stats and player stats? For example, here's Eldrad's player stats: http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/stats/11176/ and here's his duel stats http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/duelstats/11176/

It'd be nice to be able to view one from the other, or to ideally combine them both into one page.

:P sorry a1k0n, yeah... wasn't frustrated about my duel stats. Just found one or 2 people's standings a little strange.

Especially since the people Klox beat, never beat anyone else. You could never get to 1600 in chess continuously playing new people. The returns usually diminish fast. (for some reason 8 points is sticking in my head, like if you're 1700 and you play and win against someone who's also 1700 you get 8. And for every 32 points higher or lower the point drops down 1. So for a 1700 to play a 1200, neither the 1700's nor the 1200's rating will change if the 1700 wins.

Well, I use different constants than are typical in chess - a 1400 chess rating is closer to a 2000 vendetta rating. And I suspect there are a bunch of invisible deleted characters playing a role here (and you will be able to see who tried to cheat the system - his actions are what led to the constants I chose). Let me fix that first.

ah, so the rankings here are going to go up a lot then.

if 2000 Vend = 1400 Chess then we have yet to see our duel masters emerge.

nm, its all just static right now.

it doesn't appear to be working on Safari or mac IE hmmm oh well

-azdgari

Try using Safari->Empty Cache... (option apple e)

a1k0n,

Are you referring to me? I certainly wasn't trying to cheat the system because the system didn't exist at the time I did the duels. Also, I wouldn't have expected that killing n00bs would have a positive effect on statistics. The whole reason we used /duel was because it DIDN'T have an effect on my statistics (combat XP).

I agree that I shouldn't have such a high rank, and I didn't cheat to get there. If killing n00bs boosts your ranking so much, I think we're going to be seeing a lot more n00b killing. (Disclaimer: My kills were mostly mentees & friends. I don't hunt n00bs normally.)

No, I wasn't referring to you. Maybe I should just be specific so nobody else gets miffed - it was ViciousNanite. It didn't affect his ranking all that much (I tried to see to that) and the rest of his statistics look legit, so it didn't throw things out of whack much at all.

Maybe your rank shouldn't be where it is, but you never lost a battle so you've been gaining points. The more people you battle the more accurate your ranking is, and you might expect a few duel challenges from others who want to prove their mettle. :P

I might need to adjust the ranks so that players who haven't dueled often don't have as much impact on players who have. I wrote it with that in mind, but during my own (albeit limited) testing (on a limited dataset) I couldn't come up with what I thought would be a fair or accurate way to do that.

"Try using Safari->Empty Cache... (option apple e)"

thanks that worked perfectly

-Azdgari

Ah, OK. I'm sure this will balance out over time. We just need to give it time...

props to the devs and the people who do very well on their duels congrats!!!

-Black 2

eldrad, does that mean that you are also mists, especially since he seems to be one of the only ones not having dueled eldrad at all :D?

Since I have no idea who in the nine hells that is :D

Yes, Mists is my Guiding character. Since I use it for guiding I don't attack anyone who doesn't want to fight.... so basically I duel a lot (Also Mists uses a Sky Command Prom so it's not really fair dueling).

"Also I know you said you were working on the page some more, but might I suggest being able to search that list."

Yes, and being able to sort by each column would be nice, too. We could find ourselves more easily if we could sort by name, and we could sort by Wins, Losses, and Draws. That'd be cool.

(Also Mists uses a Sky Command Prom so it's not really fair dueling).

Hahah! Here here!

Anyway, I like the system. I think it's kinda nice knowing how well you match up with other players. However, my one suggestion would be that it should reset for some players eventually (or after a certain point, the oldest duels are no longer counted), in the same way a golf handicap works.

Also, there needs to be some way to encourage dueling for players on the first page or so. I'm on the first page, and personally I don't want to duel anyone for fear of losing my standing =p. I know it's kinda cheap, not dueling and all, but subconsciously I can't let myself duel. If there was some encouragement, such as knowing that even if I lose 10 duels in a row, eventually, if I duel enough, they'll be forgotten, I'd duel more and try to get even higher up.

Finally, if you add in handicaps, all the more reason to not duel anyone worse than you. You might as well start with less armor.

Also, you kind of get this handicap anyway, if you lose or win to a player much better or worse than you. If you beat a player better than you, you're gonna move up a good deal. If you beat a player a lot worse than you, you're not gonna move up as much. Same with if you lose, accept moving down and vice versa.

Well, right now, it really doesn't matter WHO you duel, you gain/lose between 50-90 points. There's no drop off.

Maybe a search feature for the duel page cuz I don't know where the heck I am on that list.

Maybe another division in win by shiptype?

Since if you win a duel in a centaur or in a rev c it means an entire different way of flying.

Just put behind the name of the person he dueled a (V-RC, SCP-RC,...) with V = valk, SCP = sky command Prom and left being the viewer and right being the challenger.

And at the end of the sheet a successpercentage for each ship.

Although, do so only in your of hours (like when your bored :D) or when your not needing the time to put in some superimportant stuff :D

We are planning on adding multiple divisions, or at least awards for the top ten level ≤ 2 combat/light/heavy pilots and so forth.

I'll make a search thingy too.

Hm, and fix the message board bug I just encountered.