Why would any seller insist on a hated rep someplace? Just make Corvus/UIT mutually exclusive to some degree and be done with it. The Corvus standing requirements should be balanced enough by the corresponding hit to UIT standing.

If anything, Corvus should be counter balanced against a pilot's native faction, not UIT.

And as inc pointed out in another thread "Corvus is the "last ditch" place where people are automatically located if they're bounced out of their homed station due to faction loss. So, generally, we don't let people get Hated by Corvus.

Actually, you can already dock with Corvus even while Hated, so it's no big deal (you just can't buy very much, and the SF attacks you when you go outside). Inconvenience can be reduced by upgrading the re-home logic to consider other factions besides the native and Corvus when your home station becomes undockable. If you manage to achieve permanent (non-tempkos) Hated status with all factions including Corvus, your Corvus standing could just be bumped up to Dislike automatically.

It would be nice to see a UIT ship on par with the X1 and Prom. Maybe a half-way step might be to make the UDV with 3S ports, 2S, 1L port, or 2L ports. Adding punch with the armour would go a long way to increasiing its usability as a pvp / combat platform.

Nice update on the whole. Keeps things interesting.

You have a nation ship with 3 s ports
You have a Nation ship with 1L 1 S
You have a nation ship now with 2 S

plus you get access to all the sub faction UIT ships earlier than other nations so, you guys are covered ship wise.

Have a nice day.

Where's my Itani tank?

Disagree. WTD yes, axia maud maybe, others not so much. If the wraith was up-armoured we might have something there. Not talking "uber" ships, just ones with a fighting chance in the hands of an average VO pilot. Not someone as skilled as you CS :-)

I'll say this much.. the new persistent capship work is going to make it one hell of a lot easier to create a roving black-market station-ship ;).

As exciting as that sounds, it makes me worry the awesome will be the enemy of the good. Hopefully we're not still seeing native POS pilots flying Hounds a month or two from now.

I still don't get why you insist Corvus would care if a law-abiding citizen buys something of theirs. They're not at war with the UIT like the Serco and Itani are.

As pirates, they're unofficially at war with all law abiding citizens and nations. You're aware that the classical name for pirates translates from Latin as Enemy of All Mankind, right?

If some UIT POS wants to stroll into a Corvus station and buy a ton of Corvus holo-discs or Sedina chocolates, Corvus should be happy to sell to them (and should also quietly alert pilots it favors/who pay for info that there's a big score on the way out the door). But there's no reason to sell the same guy guns or warships.

There is nothing wrong with doing legitimate business with law abiding types. It is when you wish to do illegitimate business, that you start sorting out the law abiding types. Did you ever stop to ask where that fast charge power cell has been, or came from? Not worried about a few dings and scratches here and there? Stop by corvus and buy one, just don't ask too many questions. Law abiding citizens ask too many questions. What? you don't ask too many questions? perhaps it is not corvus that should be concerned with doing business with you, but your own native faction that should be keeping a closer eye on you.

If that guy's got good Corvus standing in addition to his UIT POS, it's very possible that Corvus *does* in fact want to sell him warships and guns, since a person in a position of power, who's corrupt enough to deal with a pirate organization could prove to be a valuable asset.

Likewise why would they turn down business from well respected Itani and Serco military? If they're supplying armaments to them on a regular basis, Itani or Serco might think twice if the UIT asked them for help dealing with their pirate "problem."

That's why I suggested in another thread that gaining Corvus standing should involve more nefarious duties instead of just hauling yet another moth load of roombas down to the ass end of the universe.

Everyone appears to be consistently missing the point, that attempting to have high standing with both Corvus and your native faction, is evidence that neither one of them should trust you. You are two faced. You will sell out your fellow nationals, and rat out your fence, in the same breath. There should be a faction for you, and perhaps Corvus should be it. But it should be about the only one, leaving us in much the same position, that you should not have high native standing while having high Corvus standing. Not that Corvus rejects you, but that your native faction rejects you for dealing with Corvus.

Corvus could always offer clandestine missions that would raise your standing with them and not lower your standing with your nation. Although you might wind up losing standing elsewhere, depending what you had to do.

Players can't tell what your standing is with minor factions unless you're in that faction's space. Why do you assume that your home nation knows you're Corvus POS?

"As pirates, they're unofficially at war with all law abiding citizens and nations. You're aware that the classical name for pirates translates from Latin as Enemy of All Mankind, right?"

Hostis humani generis, Yes. But Corvus is only an illegal organisation to the UIT. I've neither head of nor read any backstory that suggest the Itani or the Serco consider them illicit or even give half a crap about their existence.

Corvus, conversely, isn't the Evil Co. you want it to be, it's not a pirate organisation as such it's not even clear what they're looking to achieve, what IS clear is that they don't give a crap who you are or what you do in their space. Corvus doesn't care. This is about how the UIT considers people who are supportive of corvus, and we know that they don't approve and that should be reflected in mutual exclusivity.

Sure, maybe the Serco and Itani need to have a stance towards Corvus, but I see no backstory justification for it at the moment.

@ARF "That's why I suggested in another thread that gaining Corvus standing should involve more nefarious duties instead of just hauling yet another moth load of roombas down to the ass end of the universe."

+1!

..."Corvus"..."isn't the Evil Co."..."they don't give a crap who you are"...

OK. Corvus is the super liberal faction. This makes Corvus the perfect catch all the devs wish for, for the sake of characters that piss off other factions.

And that is why Corvus is evil. Corvus is evil by association. Corvus will deal with evil pirates, even when no one else will, and in the eyes of the other factions, that makes Corvus evil by extension.

On the other side of the coin, for those characters that see the super factions as evil, then Corvus is good.

But either way you see it, Corvus is in conflict with the interest of the super factions. And while Corvus might not care who does and does not like you, every other faction should take note of characters that are liked by Corvus, and the more paranoid factions should react preemptively to a character having high Corvus standing.

And that is why Corvus is evil. Corvus is evil by association. Corvus will deal with evil pirates, even when no one else will, and in the eyes of the other factions, that makes Corvus evil by extension.

Wouldn't that also include every trader that quietly pays a pirate for passage instead of reporting them to the "authorities?"