The only computer in my house running 10.3 is a 400MHz grape iMac, which couldn't run VO competently even if it wanted to.

(There's also a 400MHz indigo iMac running 10.4, so I'd feel confident saying that dropping 10.3 support probably isn't a huge issue in the greater scheme of things, particularly if it opens up more optimization options on the Mac version.)

I've got an old Mac running 10.3.9, but at the moment I'm using leopard, so go ahead, drop it, I say!

My eight, possibly even nine year old 600MHz G3 iMac (which runs VO... some of it competently) runs OSX 10.4.11. While it's probably best to keep 10.3.x as long as possible, if it is too unfeasible, then I guess you should drop it.

10.4 on an Powerbook and 10.5 on an MacBook Pro, no more 10.3 around here.

A-Dawg: 8 years. No pre-2001 iMac had >500 MHz.

All of my Macs are at 10.5.6. You can drop 10.3 like a hot rock...

8 years ago was 2001, the early 2001 imac was 600mhz.

Wait...why the hell do we care about the age of that old imac..lol

Drop it like it's hot

My junk-pile still uses 10.3.9. However, its so old that it hardly runs VO anyway. Given that I'll probably need a new computer before I re-subscribe, I'm not particularly against dropping 10.3.x support.

this info isn't sent to you in some kind of anonymous way? what about website visits? you could match ip's seen ingame to the browser and os used by that ip to browse the website. results would be much better than this random survey.

i'm on 10.5 but i don't play so that's not helpful.

We're kind of.. extra-special protective of anything that could be construed as "private user data". We won't do analysis of the system and then return it over the network without a specific confirmation from the user (anonymous or otherwise). At present we don't have an option for that, but have discussed adding it. I'm a bit of an ardent security/privacy advocate.

We do, however, send back general "client build" info, since that comes from our own client and requires no external queries of the system. So we have stats and running graphs on Mac PPC vs Mac Intel vs Windows vs Linux/32 vs Linux/64. Of course, that doesn't help us much with this 10.3.9 vs 10.4 debate. Any of the Mac PPC subset could be running anything.

I could probably do some sort of Safari-version hack thing on the logged referrers from the webserver, but that wouldn't necessarily be meaningful either.

Especially not since Safari is available for Windows.

But it's good to know you won't sell our credit card numbers to the highest bidder ;)

Why don't you do one of those polls where people click and select their system and everyone can see the resulting numbers. Don't you have that kind of thing on this message board? It might be useful for finding out other things you might want to know as well.

No, we don't have that kind of thing.

Isn't there a "that kind of thing" built into the game?
I could have sworn I've had to click through a poll once when logging in, and there's traces of it in the lua mess.

Mac user here: I use OS X 10.4, and soon 10.5 (or 10.6 when it's released, maybe).

And I don't know any people still using 10.3 for gaming by the way...

Genka, yes. Anyway, thanks for the suggestions on other ways we could do this, we're aware of that. I was just looking for a sampling and feedback from the forums.

Dalek: Actually, missioncreek says he's running it, on page 1.

Unbelievable.

Amazon:
Apple Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger [OLD VERSION]

7 new from $185.00
11 used from $149.00

The old 10.4 costs more than the new 10.5.

There were some on Ebay that were cheaper. Plus I think Tertior offered to sell his on page1 for like $50.

Requiring 10.4 is a good thing on a number of levels. It lets us compile using a newer compiler, which could increase performance for people on PPC. At the same time, we can build the PPC version specifically for G4 and better, which could also improve performance.

What about the people who run VO on G3's? (There are a couple of us!)