"Ctishman is correct in that the Guides are not charged with enforcing moral gameplay, so smiting griefers is not an option (though I might ask one to ease up a bit occasionally).

Guides ARE charged with squashing spam and halting verbal abuse, including unwanted sexual innuendo."

Yes, I am well aware of that. I also think IMNSHO that this should change. I am also well aware that I probably would NOT be accepted as a guide. :)

P.S.
DS4, hmm... based on YOUR definition, (IE attitude), one COULD argue that then YES, HSR and Phoenix and Arolte and myself, and a few others should be punished. :) (MIGHT want to change that. LMAO)

*Edit sorry, forgot to add myself to that as Phoenix is correct.. based on the DS4's defintion LOL.

Furball, I have broken no rules. Therefore, you have no reason to say I should be punished. Just because I'm more skilled than you, and I kill you over and over is no grounds for punishment. I'm simply playing the game. It's people like you furball flaming people which ruins the community. I should be punished? What about you? You were on a Blue character a couple days ago flaming me for absolutely no reason. And jumping in front of my missles so you could just see me have issues. If anything, YOU should be the one punished.

On another topic something needs to be done. Earlier during a blue cap attempt 2 veteran golds, who will remain nameless logged onto blue and relayed information on the blue cap to gold causing us to lose the flag several times. This kind of behavior should not be tolerated.

I don't think guides should do anything to personVSperson combat. Perhaps stopping of nuking exploit is the only thing that is acceptable imho.
Please, stop drug talk in the game, it is getting ridiculous. Out of 3-4 last days, I have heard issues of drugs come up everyday. Some people even promote it, WTF? Be smarter FFS!
What else? I'll post my ideas about chat in suggestions.

AHHH yes... let's pull out an old ad hominem attack shall we ehh Phoenix. LMAO (Note this applys only to the first paragraph.)

Just to note:

Homestar: There already is a name filter, it's blocking vocabulary isn't as extended as the chat one though because it isn't used as often.

Devs: I suggest you enforce the name filter a bit more

Spying is unfair, certain people have the power to make a so called, Spy bot, the basic idea behind this is to grab team chat and /msg someone on another team. I jokingly suggested this somewhere.

Furball: Phoenix is right, i have not seen him break any rules that allow a guide top intervene.

Phoenix: A blue player making you issue is annoying, but doesn't allow you to use guide powers if you had them.

Randomize: i believe guides are allowed to intervene for exploiting bugs in the game, what qualifies as an exploitable bug is anybodies guess.

"Furball: Phoenix is right, i have not seen him break any rules that allow a guide top intervene."

SL, you're right, CURRENT rules. IMNSHO there are some other rules that guides SHOULD be enforcing but I've said that before and we'll just leave it at that.

Regarding policing of exploits: The working rule is that Guides are to intervene when a BUG (that is, a feature of the game that is not working as it was intended to) is being exploited. Many of the things that are "exploited" are actually working as they were intended to, but just aren't complete yet. A good example of an exploited bug would be the invulnerability bug if it was used for flag capping.

The devs set the policy for what is policed. If they change the policy, thats cool with me.

Thanks for telling us moderator, not many people know what a real exploit is.

May I ask why dealing with griefers is a moral issue and not a gameplay issue?

That they make the game un-fun (which is what a GAME is SUPPOSED to be) has nothing to do with morality.

That they make the game not worth the hard drive space it takes up has ZILCH to do with morality.

That they make it difficult/nigh-on-impossible to TEST the BETA game is not a morality issue. If I can't trade, or fly through sectors, or dock/leave the station that's a gameplay issue. If I can't do what I'm supposed to do in the game, then the game is broken. Not being able to do what you're supposed to be able to do is a BUG, is it not?

If they make the game worthless to me to the point I log in once a week at most, that's, again, a gameplay issue.

"The devs set the policy for what is policed."

Then let's see some policy making while there are still players who care.

There is a skill curve, and the average player can trade past home sectors with moderate success. The thing about online games that is very differant from solo play is this : the devs dont set the difficulty for all things, its more like this

featurediffuclty + otherplayersskill = game difficulty


what your asking for is this
featurediffuclty + otherplayersskill - x = game difficulty

What do you want x to be?

Xoch, amen. I agree with you 100%!

If you can't "trade, or fly through sectors, or dock/leave the station" thats not a gameplay issue. That means that either your computer is broken or that you don't know how to fly.

Furball, get a life. Back up to Phoenix's post.....

Phoenix is correct. He just happens to be a reaaaally good Itani pilot who can hand you your rear. Logging on as his nation and ramming him is frowned upon, but is still permissable. So is spying.

Like Xoch said, this isn't about morality, it's about gameplay. Shut up about what "should be enforced." That happens to be your ***opinion***. My opinion is equally as valid as yours, and thank you, we know what both of ours is. However, saying you'd ban people for doing permissable actions within a game is very disconcerting.

Listen, it doesn't matter if it's your opinion or his opinion, it is still an opnion that you should respect even though it is different from your opinion, maybe the majority of people don't like your opinion but prefer furball's opinion.

Hypothetically? maybe. Realistically? no. The moderator just said the guides are NOT there to enforce moral gameplay, that's the players' job.

Besides, even if only 10% of people agree with Camps and 90% agree with FurBall, it doesn't matter. THere's a dissenting opinion and no action can be taken without getting a lot of anger at the moderators. 10% of the players in the final game will probably be a number well in the thousands.

Just like to note, I dislike HSR's style of play. I (personnaly) find it irritating.

BUT...

It's HSR's stlye, it's how he/she chooses to conduct him/herself. I think it's unfair to attack someone's sexuality when you can't attack them on a pilot level.

I had been involved in combat with HSR i lost 5 ships for HSR's 1 (i thought it was worth it though).

HSR used some very dirty/mean/evil tactics, but truth be told I was impressed with the thought that went into the attack!

Just my 2c

Post deleted due to offensive language. You may not name-call here.

Ugh. It happened again. I spend 10 minutes writing up a well thought post and the mod deletes it because it mentions that just because i think someone isn't a nice person doesn't mean that the guides should do anything about it.

You "mentioned" that you thought somebody was "kind of a dick". If you don't want your posts deleted you should read the opening screen to the Forums. In not complying with that message you are contributing to the very problems you are complaining about.