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You could be right, zamzx, and perhaps you have put me to shame. On the other hand, the thread has the faint aroma of troll to me.
Not troll, Whistler. Close minded buffoon. Some people cannot think beyond themselves.
*applauds Zamzx's post*
I bet he's anti-cable TV, too. Don't get him started on GameFly or NetFlix, either.
Hmm, the electricity used by a computer to play vo for a month probably costs more than the monthly fee....
the electricity used by a computer to play vo for a month probably costs more than the monthly fee
What the Hell sort of planet killing computer do you run?!
What the Hell sort of planet killing computer do you run?!
Ok, lets say an average comp / monitor / modem at 250 Watts.
Lets assume a player has 6 hours / day of VO or other computer use .
That gives on average 180 hours / month , or 45 kWh consumption.
UK tariff of 14 pence / kWh gives a monthly cost of 6.30 UK pounds
VO costs 5 UK pounds / month at the current exchange rate .....
QED
Mind you if we engineers charged as much as you lawyers the above calculation would pay for a lifetime of VO ;p
Lets assume a player has 6 hours / day of VO or other computer use .
That gives on average 180 hours / month , or 45 kWh consumption.
UK tariff of 14 pence / kWh gives a monthly cost of 6.30 UK pounds
VO costs 5 UK pounds / month at the current exchange rate .....
QED
Mind you if we engineers charged as much as you lawyers the above calculation would pay for a lifetime of VO ;p
Ah, the eternal search for financial balance. While avoiding recurring costs is all well and good, it is important to remember that this expense is a wholly voluntary cost- should money become short in supply, the cost can be discontinued at any point without penalty. It simply boils down to the main question- "Does this game provide me with sufficient entertainment over a month to justify a $10 expenditure?"
In my experience, the answer is yes. It's a portion of my entertainment budget equivalent to roughly one fifth to one seventh of a "regular" video game, two trips to the movies, or half a dinner out. The latter two activities can be wholly completed in a single day, and with a few rare exceptions the first only lasts, at most, a month before I've completed all major activity contained therein.
A decently maintained MMOG is one of the best entertainment deals out there, so long as the gameplay is actually fun and not, as one forum so succinctly put it, "GRINDAN GAEMS". The only better deals I've found in the world of video games are server-based non-subscription FPS games, and while good, sometimes the fast and furious pace gets to be a bit much. That's when I come here, lean back, listen to the nice music, run goods, chew the fat in 100, and generally enjoy the relaxing pace.
In my experience, the answer is yes. It's a portion of my entertainment budget equivalent to roughly one fifth to one seventh of a "regular" video game, two trips to the movies, or half a dinner out. The latter two activities can be wholly completed in a single day, and with a few rare exceptions the first only lasts, at most, a month before I've completed all major activity contained therein.
A decently maintained MMOG is one of the best entertainment deals out there, so long as the gameplay is actually fun and not, as one forum so succinctly put it, "GRINDAN GAEMS". The only better deals I've found in the world of video games are server-based non-subscription FPS games, and while good, sometimes the fast and furious pace gets to be a bit much. That's when I come here, lean back, listen to the nice music, run goods, chew the fat in 100, and generally enjoy the relaxing pace.
/me hugs IRS.
Finally, some pretty decent responses have come about.
Also, I'd like to apologize for even making this topic, I was angry at the time since this has been my favorite game for the few hours I played it... and I stayed well up into the night (not supposed to) playing it. Doesn't make me feel good when it comes up on the screen basically saying "Your current new game is going to end in 1 hour."
While I appreciate what these people are doing and how hard they work, I've done more for scratch (Yes, I've developed a game before). However, the fact that this game has had 2 bugs I've encountered so far, however minor, seems like a tad bit much to pay $10 a month. Once the game is more developed, I'd probably consider it. I did, in fact, recommend this to a few friends of mine (albeit saying I wouldn't... again... I was angry), and they've enjoyed it as much as I have.
That being said, in a few months I might return and actually pay to play.
Ah, and if you want the bugs I can track them down again... I think I still have about an hour left on my trial edition. I didn't write them down and instead kept playing the game. :( They were quite minor though, just a station being off the correct radar (pointing at an asteriod instead) and a jump point's + sign appearing on the opposite side of the radar as to where it's supposed to be.
Also, I'd like to apologize for even making this topic, I was angry at the time since this has been my favorite game for the few hours I played it... and I stayed well up into the night (not supposed to) playing it. Doesn't make me feel good when it comes up on the screen basically saying "Your current new game is going to end in 1 hour."
While I appreciate what these people are doing and how hard they work, I've done more for scratch (Yes, I've developed a game before). However, the fact that this game has had 2 bugs I've encountered so far, however minor, seems like a tad bit much to pay $10 a month. Once the game is more developed, I'd probably consider it. I did, in fact, recommend this to a few friends of mine (albeit saying I wouldn't... again... I was angry), and they've enjoyed it as much as I have.
That being said, in a few months I might return and actually pay to play.
Ah, and if you want the bugs I can track them down again... I think I still have about an hour left on my trial edition. I didn't write them down and instead kept playing the game. :( They were quite minor though, just a station being off the correct radar (pointing at an asteriod instead) and a jump point's + sign appearing on the opposite side of the radar as to where it's supposed to be.
I'd like to point out that VO has less bugs than most major titles.
I have never encountered or heard about those bugs.. are you sure you're looking at the correct radar?
I have never encountered or heard about those bugs.. are you sure you're looking at the correct radar?
Holy shit, two fucking bugs?! You're totally right, that's worth... 50% off the market price for an MMORPG?
Which is ~$20, so...
Oh.
And Ecka, you Brits have some damn pricy electricty.
W/r/t hourly rates, please bear in mind that any moron can deal with numbers: they're fixed, hard-edged concepts that interact in an abstract, logical way. While there are many ways to get them wrong, there is also an actual right answer. To which a magical formula, equasion, theorum, and/or rule will lead anyone who can keep accurate track of the figures on their pad.
Contrast this simplicity with the law, which is an attempt to apply logic and predictability to the governing of wildly subjective, squishy human affairs while at the same time dealing in that hindsight based, amorphous qualtity called Justice. The idea of the "Rule" of law is funny: in law, there are no rules, only guidelines. And often times, they don't quite say what they are thought to mean, or mean quite what they seem to say. In short, there is never an actual right answer: there are only ways in which one answer may be viewed as better than others. Trying to wrap your brain around this utter nonsense can cause it to smoke; where UK antimoney laundering law is involved, it may actually explode.
Thus the decimal place or two variances in our price per hour ;)
Which is ~$20, so...
Oh.
And Ecka, you Brits have some damn pricy electricty.
W/r/t hourly rates, please bear in mind that any moron can deal with numbers: they're fixed, hard-edged concepts that interact in an abstract, logical way. While there are many ways to get them wrong, there is also an actual right answer. To which a magical formula, equasion, theorum, and/or rule will lead anyone who can keep accurate track of the figures on their pad.
Contrast this simplicity with the law, which is an attempt to apply logic and predictability to the governing of wildly subjective, squishy human affairs while at the same time dealing in that hindsight based, amorphous qualtity called Justice. The idea of the "Rule" of law is funny: in law, there are no rules, only guidelines. And often times, they don't quite say what they are thought to mean, or mean quite what they seem to say. In short, there is never an actual right answer: there are only ways in which one answer may be viewed as better than others. Trying to wrap your brain around this utter nonsense can cause it to smoke; where UK antimoney laundering law is involved, it may actually explode.
Thus the decimal place or two variances in our price per hour ;)
Ok, sorry to hear you found our pricing to be unacceptable. We don't intend to hide that we're a pay-to-play game at all, I thought it was clear, but perhaps we should make it clearer. Anyway, I'm going to go ahead and lock this thread now..