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I know it still in the game but could we all (or most of us) get back on it.`
I don't have anything against 100, but in a RP way 100 is very bad for the game, and most of the time, discussions on 100 just don't help the game, i mean, soon we guys will log, and stay in station chating on 100...
It's a game after all, not a giant chat with "spacecraft-like windows".
I don't have anything against 100, but in a RP way 100 is very bad for the game, and most of the time, discussions on 100 just don't help the game, i mean, soon we guys will log, and stay in station chating on 100...
It's a game after all, not a giant chat with "spacecraft-like windows".
Nation chat is still ingame, but you are right, its not used much (infact, the only time I use it is to taunt Serco's that i may be pirating, heh) I guess this is due mainly, at least in my expierence, to the fact that it _isnt_ a secure channel, IE. I could quite easily make an Itani alt, and sit it on 11 loggin nation chat, or somesuch.
The other point you have (that general chat is sometimes a bad thing) is also a valid point, and has been stated before many times. See this thread for reference : http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/1/11438#135364
With a player base this small, role play is hard, because we all kinda end up knowing each other, and hey, I can spot an alt from a mile away, unless they make effort to talk different in all alts (and stick with it, ala borb :P) so until the player base grows somewhat, the points, although valid, are moot.
The other point you have (that general chat is sometimes a bad thing) is also a valid point, and has been stated before many times. See this thread for reference : http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/1/11438#135364
With a player base this small, role play is hard, because we all kinda end up knowing each other, and hey, I can spot an alt from a mile away, unless they make effort to talk different in all alts (and stick with it, ala borb :P) so until the player base grows somewhat, the points, although valid, are moot.
yup yoda hit it on the head, imo, the channel is just not that secure, and you have guilds that are mixed factions so if your trying to say something about a pirate your SOL cause they are going to hear you, or anyone with an alt logged into that chat channel. General chat and Private messages are the main ways people will communicate.
I've said it before, and I'll keep on saying it - Channel 11 should be joined by default. Not active, mind you, but joined. I see more questions by newbs on channel 100 asking if there -is- a nation-specific channel than I see traffic on the channel (11) itself!
There are many uses for the nation channel; the trouble is, that all these uses are dependant on people actually listening on it, and since nobody does, it's rather useless.
Also, in addition to the current channels, I think a special channel should be made and designated the 'System' chat (maybe channel 10?), which would operate like Sector chat, only on a system-wide scale.
There are many uses for the nation channel; the trouble is, that all these uses are dependant on people actually listening on it, and since nobody does, it's rather useless.
Also, in addition to the current channels, I think a special channel should be made and designated the 'System' chat (maybe channel 10?), which would operate like Sector chat, only on a system-wide scale.
the bigest problem is the fact that it's based soly on the nation your character has when created and not on faction standing. (obviously if it were soly based on faction standing we'd have worse problems now due to the broken faction system, but that's another debate). so every trater or pierat can hear your nation communications, but they can't hear the nation chat of the factions they may be more friendly with.
basicly it's just easier to make a group, use private chat, or accept that you can't keep a secret and broadcast on 100.
i for one routienly moniter chanell 11 (as well as any other chanels i randomly joined and never bothered to leave) but prety much chanells 1 and 100 are all i ever expect to see any comunication on.
basicly it's just easier to make a group, use private chat, or accept that you can't keep a secret and broadcast on 100.
i for one routienly moniter chanell 11 (as well as any other chanels i randomly joined and never bothered to leave) but prety much chanells 1 and 100 are all i ever expect to see any comunication on.
I am very often pretty bored of 100. But I just can't leave it for the few very good moments that regularily raise from here.
And yeah, I often wanted to talk to 11, or to listen to it, but hardly ever found anyone at the other side...
And yeah, I often wanted to talk to 11, or to listen to it, but hardly ever found anyone at the other side...
Bah you're right GRAIG. I should yap on 11 more. Remember, you asked for it. >:P
Most of the time (when I play) I turn off 100 and hang on 11, which usualy means I get board and turn on 100, then get stick of it and turn it off, and then well I guess I turn it back on, but after that I always turn it off...
I should bind nation chat to a button like Team Chat back in the day.
AKA Ecka Estenk
I agree with Craig's basic point , and I have observered than some of the channel 100 chat amongst players well known to each other can be a bit offputting for some new players.
For that reason alone I think it would be useful to have nation chat open on joining the game.
The game already has Tutorial missions , perhaps a " Communications Tutorial Mission " would be a useful way of introducing new players to the use of VO's various comms modes. It would also help to explain the concepts of sectors , systems, the universe , groups , guilds and individuals.
A final point : There is far more real game information passed via secure Guild comms than many players might think.....
I agree with Craig's basic point , and I have observered than some of the channel 100 chat amongst players well known to each other can be a bit offputting for some new players.
For that reason alone I think it would be useful to have nation chat open on joining the game.
The game already has Tutorial missions , perhaps a " Communications Tutorial Mission " would be a useful way of introducing new players to the use of VO's various comms modes. It would also help to explain the concepts of sectors , systems, the universe , groups , guilds and individuals.
A final point : There is far more real game information passed via secure Guild comms than many players might think.....
>"to the fact that it _isnt_ a secure channel, IE. I could quite easily make >an Itani alt, and sit it on 11 loggin nation chat, or somesuch.
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Actually that wouldn't be a problem, we got spies too in real life, and it could help RP much than 100 does.
I mean, back in the time when CtC was very fashionable, even we all know pirates like Borb and shape was on 11 we still make our coordinations through 11, its was fun to see them coming to ambush us, because that's the real point of a game, being fun... No matter if you're friendly or not with the ennemy, wtf?
You 'll tell me that the player base is too small for that and that newbie will be lost in a empty universe, Wrong! when i first join* the game, the player base was like 30players, just like now(except that now we can reach 60 players)I started on channel 1, asked for help, and someone (Niki, just not to say his name) answered me and propose to mentor me, and there i became a part of the community. I spend may be 2 month with nation Chat ONLY and then joined a guild. but SEDINA B8** appears and make ppl make calls, trash talking, ennemy-loving-talking on 100 untill now...
*November 2004
** ---> bad bad for RP
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Actually that wouldn't be a problem, we got spies too in real life, and it could help RP much than 100 does.
I mean, back in the time when CtC was very fashionable, even we all know pirates like Borb and shape was on 11 we still make our coordinations through 11, its was fun to see them coming to ambush us, because that's the real point of a game, being fun... No matter if you're friendly or not with the ennemy, wtf?
You 'll tell me that the player base is too small for that and that newbie will be lost in a empty universe, Wrong! when i first join* the game, the player base was like 30players, just like now(except that now we can reach 60 players)I started on channel 1, asked for help, and someone (Niki, just not to say his name) answered me and propose to mentor me, and there i became a part of the community. I spend may be 2 month with nation Chat ONLY and then joined a guild. but SEDINA B8** appears and make ppl make calls, trash talking, ennemy-loving-talking on 100 untill now...
*November 2004
** ---> bad bad for RP
turning off #100 was the best thing that happened to me in this game. I never use it. With the beta clients, 100 was turned on again, and that reminded me why I turn it off. When I play VO, I like to sit in a spaceship, flying through space, with the sporadic radio chatter that can be picked up on #11 for example (allthough there is a lot less trafic on the last couple of monthys), and not in a fancy chatroom with spacegraphics.
I concur that #100 isn't good for the feel of the game, imo.
I concur that #100 isn't good for the feel of the game, imo.
Maybe if the predefined/popular channels had descriptive names is would help people roleplay a bit more and newbies starting out. Numbers like 100 and 11 are very generic compared to "Global", "Off Topic" and "Nation Only". I think we should still have numbered channels available so people can go off somewhere more private easily, but assigning some text aliases to the current one would go a long way.
I would first change "Global" to "Universal", but I still don't think doing that will change the nature of the conversations OR where people have them. 100 is the way it is because everyone knows that they will be heard on /100 (expect for those who turn it off). And is there really that much nation pride anyway. Everywhere I look I see Itani who swear they are loyal Serco followers and vis versa you have Serco who swear they have renounced Lady Serco and are simply traders. So what is the purpose of having a national channel when you only have maybe 3-4 loyal Patriots on at any given time.
[quote]I started on channel 1, asked for help, and someone (Niki, just not to say his name) answered me[/quote]
Hey, I have nothing against making 1 the default channel, and 100 not being joined by default, maybe one of the things that deters soe of the newer folk, is loggin in to try out a shiney new game, and seeing this...
[100]<Unknown player node> You suck!
[100]<Niki> No U R!
[100]<Unknown player node> No U!
[100]<Niki> No U!
[100]<Unknown player node> U!
[100]<Niki> U!
[100]<Unknown player node> UR MOM!
So on and 100 x worse at times! Yeah, 1 should be default, and I have said that before myself also :)
Hey, I have nothing against making 1 the default channel, and 100 not being joined by default, maybe one of the things that deters soe of the newer folk, is loggin in to try out a shiney new game, and seeing this...
[100]<Unknown player node> You suck!
[100]<Niki> No U R!
[100]<Unknown player node> No U!
[100]<Niki> No U!
[100]<Unknown player node> U!
[100]<Niki> U!
[100]<Unknown player node> UR MOM!
So on and 100 x worse at times! Yeah, 1 should be default, and I have said that before myself also :)
Simple fix:
Rename 100: The nVMP channel (which either stands for "noodle's Vestibule of Monkey Politics", or "n00b's Verbal Masturbatory Playground", I can't remember).
Then brainwash everyone to think that there is no nVMP channel (I know you guys can get LUA to do that), and that channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
*waves hand around like an idiot*
Rename 100: The nVMP channel (which either stands for "noodle's Vestibule of Monkey Politics", or "n00b's Verbal Masturbatory Playground", I can't remember).
Then brainwash everyone to think that there is no nVMP channel (I know you guys can get LUA to do that), and that channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance, channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
*waves hand around like an idiot*
I'm a human! Your jedi mind-tricks don't work on me, onl--Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
[repeat ad infinitum]
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
[repeat ad infinitum]
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
[repeat ad infinitum as well...]
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
Channel 11 is the only channel of importance...
[repeat ad infinitum as well...]
I don't care!
*Waves hand with magical Gesture*
Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...
*Waves hand with magical Gesture*
Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...Itani is the best...Serco are evil...
*executes ghostieboy with extreme prejudice*