Michael worked diligently to try and get them working on the test server tonight, but it was not to be. We're hoping for tomorrow (well.. today, Weds, you get the idea).

take your time and get some rest itll be better in the morning

Sounds good enough for me. Keep up the hard work!

Actually I'm still up. I made good progress, but there is something else wrong right now that I'm fairly sure has nothing to do with Deliverator, and will have to wait till tomorrow for Andy to fix. I think I'll go to bed now:)

Deep respect, for the devs, IT WILL WORK AND ITS GOING TO BE FAAANTASTIC.
[ethousiasm got the better of me, its the name you see]
jamay cheers

SLEEP?!?!?!
I AIN"T PAYIN YA TO SLEEP!!!!!!!!

LOL Kix :)

Is the Mission Editor still being worked on? Haven't heard about it in a while, is it part of the whole overhaul?

-tm

It's like the Unicorn, a mythical creature often talked about but never seen…

Except tumble's point is that we haven't heard about it.

So you're WRONG! Why do you even get out of bed in the morning?

It IS part of the whole overhaul. All of these initial tools have to be developed (or revised) somewhat concurrently in order to mesh properly. This will save a lot of the time the Devs used to spend jumping from one chunk of code to the next making changes, and will prevent some mistakes/bugs in the process.

all this high falutin fancy-codin. object orientation. ptooie. modularity. double ptooie.

back in my day you had your stack of bunch cards written in machine code. and if you couldn store 8 different EBCIDC tables in your head, then you were better off scrubbing toilets and getting coffee for the real men; the programmers.

of course most of them live in mental asylums now. but oh what about those glory years!

My dad used to tie up the entire basement "computer" at MIT over the weekend, doing crystallography stuff. All punch cards and FORTRAN.

Regarding the mission editor, yes, we're STILL trying to make something happen with that. We did make an editor, but it really didn't fly too well, and it's rather difficult to use. So, now we're kind of reworking things. I think this iteration will be much better, I'll post more about it when I'm more confident in the whole.. thing.

The fact that Deliverator and Deliverator-based missions have evolved a great deal since the initial inception of the mission editor also changes things (for the better), so, all this work is interrelated and improving things. Sorry it isn't real visible yet.

where's my escort mission!

FORTRAN. FORTRAN? FORTRAN !!!!! AAAAAAAAAAARrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhh

Talk about bad memories.....

Crap.

/me points and laughs

ha ha you remember fortran

A computer without FORTRAN is like a piece of chocolate cake without ketchup.

If you can't do it in FORTRAN, do it in assembly language. If you can't do it in assembly language, it isn't worth doing.

If you can't do it in assembly, you can't do it on that computer.

Hehe... that brings back memories... (hey, I'm not hyjacking, I'm following the *new* thread)...

In college, I got a job at the university data center on the night shift... things were a bit more layed-back then (a gozillion years ago)... w00t! we had a 360!... and I basically ran jobs, fed the line printers - typical oper stuff... and I used my oper account to write/debug my code for my classes...

Back then we had to turn in not only the "print outs" but also our card decks... I had an ADM3a and a 300baud modem... and I wrote a ADM emulation program for my *modified* Commodore 64 with the same 6502 assembly compiler that I used for my KIM1 and Apple1... but I digress...

We had "student" accounts... and I always turned in "pristine" card decks with single-pass charges to the student accounts... most of my profs never caught on... they just thought I spent incredible time hand-testing the code...

The reality? Like I said, I used my oper account to get things the way I liked it... and then *sent* the jobs to the punch... I *never* had to spend time with the other students in the "keypunch dungeon".... it was bliss... sitting in my little garage apartment... coding away... burning CRUs for the heck of it... One prof had us write a word processor in FORTRAN to illustrate the strengths and weaknesses of differing languages... mine, actually, was rather useful but it was *big* (five card boxes if I remember - about 50 pounds)... oh, and I flew through my JCL classes... was it cheating? I'd say no. I did the exact *same* work... just more *efficiently*...

You guys have it easy...

Cheating? no, the first wave of better alternatives? yes. You should have gotten extra credit just for that.

So consider all yer A's as taking part in that credit :)