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Sep 23, 2005 mikmouse24 link
so one of my buddies that CONSTANTLY is trying to get me to play WoW (to no avail) has showed me that you can actually TALK to eachother in that game- I would love to be able to do this--and CAN we do this here? he recommended having ichat open and we could talk while playing-
does anyone here do this- if so- i really want to-- it would have an awesome feel to be able to talk to my guildmates that i am flying with--
any suggestions>
thanks
Sep 23, 2005 Corbin Armond link
www.skype.com

Tested many times in VO works with out any problems.
Sep 23, 2005 Ion link
Just so that you have something to throw back at yer buddy ;-) :

WoW has no in-game support for voice communication. If our friend speaks to his guildies/party mates, it is through skype, teamspeak or similar clients. And any of those can be used with VO as well.

It's just a feeling, but I think we'll be seeing built-in support for voice communication in VO long before WoW sports any similar feature...
Sep 23, 2005 LeberMac link
I have skype.
Skype name is LeberMac.
(I don't usually have it on, tho, you have to ask nicely...)
Sep 23, 2005 incarnate link
We actually selected OGG as our audio compression of choice, with the idea of eventually supporting voice chat. But.. that's not exactly a top priority right now.

Skype and teamspeak and such have been well proven with our game, though.
Sep 23, 2005 mikmouse24 link
thank you for your guys' insight to this- i downloaded skype- LEBERMAC- it says you dont exist or havent been on in a long time-
BUT_ my next question is i would like to buy a headset to use this- you guys have recommendations ? - i have a mac-
thanks for your input- i think this will make Grouping really cool if we can get some more peopel to use it :)
Sep 23, 2005 LeadFist link
In General: yeah, with what already exists in the realm of Internet-based voice communications utilities and services, I think that Guild would be re-inventing the wheel -- and having to update it along w/all the elements that actually comprise the game. Not worth it, IMHO.

From a technical perspective, Teamspeak (TS) has a ridiculously small footprint on RAM and CPU utilization when using the client. The TS server software takes a little bit more, but not much. I have run one or the other on the same box on which I was playing multiplayer internet games. Very little-to-no performance degredation. The downside is that TS is OS-limited.

Skype is definitely more CPU-intensive. Percentage difference when compared to TS? Dunno. And it is limited in the number of folks who can talk on the same 'channel.' But it hits all teh major OS's. Great for the VO playerbase.

@ Milkmouse: I have had very good luck with plantronics-brand headsets in terms of audio quality. I haven't used their digital models though (connect via USB v. standard analog speaker/mic ports).
Sep 23, 2005 JestatisBess link
Well I use skype. When we first started the capship battles we used it with 5 people. it worked very well. But we also had a really good connection to skype and vendetta it seems. sometimes when i try and make a connection with just one other person they lag in game like crazy. I guess its all based on your connection speeds.

I have a relitively expencive wireless logitech pc headset. But i think any cheap $20 head set will do. good luck and good luck finding ppl to chat with.
Sep 23, 2005 mikmouse24 link
thanks again for the input- i understand there wont be many players using voice- unless some of us can convince them :)
also- i have an i-book- how would the headset hook up to it? since it has mic/speakers in the headset--i am speaking in terms of NOT using the usb-
i cant jsut plug it into my headphone jack i am assuming ?...
thanks
Sep 23, 2005 Ion link
Afraid you have to use the usb port. With an iBook, you need an USB adapter to be able to connect a microphone to your computer. Apple has stopped equipping their new lines of computers with standard audio input ports (which is a pain fer those of us who like to record a little bit of music every now and then on our beloved macs).

I use the iMic, which is a very cheap but still very functionable usb audio interface: http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic/

Just plug the iMic into your usb port, and plug the headset into the iMic. It can handle audio in and out at the same time. This cheap piece of plastic UFO-lookalike tech is more than enough for voice communication. I've recorded some rather demanding vocal passages for different styles of music [and any audio equipment that doesn't peak when exposed to my voice will hold for just about anything ;-) ] using the iMic, with rather good results.
Sep 23, 2005 mikmouse24 link
to ION-
so i could actually use the imic and plug my headset INTO the imic? and do headsets with mics have 2 separate cords? or just 1
also- you do music recording? macs are killer for that arent they!!!
ok- i will stop asking so many questions- i appreciate the information
Sep 24, 2005 toshiro link
TeamSpeak is a bit of a non-option, since so many users have a Macintosh (and I'm unsure as to whether there's a Linux client).
Skype seems really the best option for Vendetta Online, although the greatest number of people conferencing is only 5. That makes for an odd number for squads.

@mikmouse24

About the mac stuff: If you have no Audio-In, I suggest getting an USB headset. It's the safest way to attach a mike/speaker combo, I think.
Sep 24, 2005 sleon link
there is linux client for teamspeak

why not sign petition for mac client?
there is teamspeak channel.
Sep 24, 2005 yodaofborg link
Sleon, the teamspeak team are going to eventually do a mac client, but it wont be anytime soon.

http://forum.goteamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=4990
Sep 24, 2005 roguelazer link
They've been saying that they're working on a mac client for almost 3 years now...
Sep 24, 2005 Beolach link
I'd bet TeamSpeak has Mac support before Ventrillo has Linux Support. TS already has Linux support, while Ventrillo has been saying it's "In Development" for a looooong time now.

Actually, from what I've heard TS is planning on getting Mac support in TeamSpeak 3, which they hope to release in the 1st half of 2006.
Sep 24, 2005 LeberMac link
Yeah, TeamSpeak and TiVo are on my shitlist for lack of any REAL Mac support.
Anyway, yeah Me, Jestatis, Borb, Ghostwolf and silentsuicide were all on Skype for the first 2 capship battles. The best part was listening to Jestatis try to coordinate everyone. Frikkin Hilarious.
Skype DOES make your connection lag a bit. Not horribly so, but yeah - a bit.
Sep 24, 2005 Starfisher link
Too bad Ventrillo and Teamspeak haven't gotten their at together. They've been talking about mac support for years.
Sep 24, 2005 Ion link
mikmouse:
Toshiro is right, a USB headset might be cheaper and simpler than the iMic. However, if yer planning to line any other audio into your computer, the iMic is a better alternative. And yeah, most mic headsets have two separate cords, but the iMic has two ports, one for audio out and one for audio in.

Yes, macs provide a wonderful environment for music recording and mixing. However, I must admit there's very little difference between PCs and macs these days when it comes to working with digitalized music. PCs/windows have caught up with us there, just like we've caught up with them in other areas. Cubase SX is availalable for both platforms. However, the new versions of Logic are mac-only, so that's one unique advantage. [I mostly record vocals for my band, but occasionally I record my own acoustic material as well. ]

About Skype and VO: On a computer as old as mine, Skype actually uses more than 40% of my CPU's power, and more real memory than the kernel task itself. However, I was surprised and delighted today to find VO was still playable while making a call in Skype. But as long as Skype continues to be so horribly CPU-demanding in OS X, and as long as it's limited to 5 concurrent conversations, we have to continue hoping for either an OS X version of Teamspeak, or built-in voice support in VO...
Sep 24, 2005 mikmouse24 link
thanks for all the info on this- it really helped-
ill go usb mic/headset- if i find some peeps that already have it and will hook up with me-
BTW- i downloaded skype=
mikmouse24 is da name
gimme a ring if im on