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Apr 20, 2003 Icarus link
Personally, i'd just like to see the Blues Adv Fghter taken down a notch or two on the manouverabilty... There is simply no way it should have this set as "Very High", when the only other ship that has this can only hold one Small weapon, has naff-all armour, and naff-all cargo space.... I think only the Centurion should have "Very High".... But then again.... what do i know ;)
Apr 20, 2003 Nemesis link
I think the blue special ship should have its Armor lowered to 14000 and the agility toned down to High... That would pretty much balance it, if you give the yellow special one heavy slot instead of a light one, and the red prom should get another heavy slot too...

Oh, and you can do some pretty nasty things with a Hornet and four railguns firing at the same time... Blow up anything and its uncle in one or two shots.
Apr 20, 2003 Suicidal Lemming link
Ok i see everyone complaining about others ships then theres, how about this?

Valkyrie;
Variation; Interceptor
Cargo; 2
(s) ports; 2
Manuverability; Very High
Health; 18k

Variation; Light attack ship
cargo; 6
(s) ports; 3
Manuverability; high
Health; 14k

Variation; Scrounger
Cargo; 12
(s) ports; 2
Manuverability; Medium
Health; 12k

This would be aplied to all nations, one ship for tradeing one ship for killing, one for inbetween, i think the Prometheus is a bit high in the health chain, 26k health, it takes 2 avalons and 3 railguns to take that down, and avalons are suicide.
Apr 20, 2003 xochiluvr link
It's a leet fighter, I understand why it has the agility. But it has too much cargo space and hull points. It's armored like a tank and moves like a Porche, and has enough trunk space to hide a dozen dead bodies - it's the PERFECT pirate ship. In fact, it begs to be used as a pirate ship.

Give the pizza cutter 20 cargo (16 cargo ain't so special, the centaur has 14 cargo and room for better weapons).

Drop the Maurader's cargo to 2 (it's NOT a trader, it's a fighter, so why does it have have so much cargo space?). Drop the armor to 12k at least, too.

Someone else said it - the special ships shouldn't be uberships, and the Itani ship is.
Apr 20, 2003 Nemesis link
*agrees*

More cargo space to the pizza cutter!!!
Apr 20, 2003 Arolte link
Uhhh, xochiluvr, you basically asked for the pizza cutter's cargo to be increased to 20... and then asked for it to be reduced to 2. Psssst... Marauder = Pizza Cutter. I'm assuming you meant the advanced fighter of the Itani, aka Valkaryie.

; D
Apr 21, 2003 Hunter Alpha link
"I'm confused, gold wants a warship, yet thier a neutral nation? I hear golds whining all the time because they have a cargo ship for special. Well DUH if you're neutral, then your a trader by definition, If you don't like it switch teams." - Phoenix_I

I would just like to point out that if everyone switched to blue the game would be rendered pointless.
Apr 21, 2003 Arolte link
I would also like to point out that neutrality does NOT necessarily mean peaceful. All "neutral" means is that they're not allied with anybody. They can be neutral in a way that they'd be the lone fighters. A single nation that fends for itself. I'd also like to point out that our nation is meant to have pirates IN ADDITION to traders. A nation of traders, exiled pirates, miners, and just about anything that involves personal interest. It's basically a nation of freelancing pilots. Itani and Serco are supposed to be more organized, with militaries and factions working together. More political, if you will. They're supposed to be the more civilized of the three. Unfortunately a lot of Itanis don't act like it. Serco, surprisingly, has been peaceful with The Neutral Territories for the most part. As the saying goes, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." I guess with the Valk ship in Itani's possession, this holds very much true.
Apr 21, 2003 roguelazer link
I agree Arolte, and I think that the devs should point this out somehow. Perhaps putting ingame government support and ingame banking? But no, that is like asking for a frigate for each nation... By the way, can we have one? :->
Apr 22, 2003 Renegade ++RIP++ link
Arolte, sorry that I'm stating this, but your post "rather furballs post" started with complaining about the constantely capping thing. While your nation did exactly the same in the previous release. How many times did any of us not say , please not hostile and still we were shot. Now you get the same medicine and you are mad.

I fully agree that the ship has to become more balanced like taking down it's Hull like stated in suicidals post, maybe even taking it down even more. But don't forget, in my opinion the red "serco" ones will becone the best ship in the next release.

PS: I just hope that people will stop pirating and I certainly hope that our government will try to aide in that manner

Renegade ++RIP++ signs off

cheers
Apr 22, 2003 Kartoffel link
the only ppl who may complain here are the reds IMHO,
The reds special ship is just our good old Prom, it only has 10 cargo (less then gold) has low agility (less then blue) and is very slow.

Besides that, the blues and golds have way better trade routes.

I think that there has to come a stop on new blues, because they are getting way to big
Apr 22, 2003 Captain Rambone link
Red population is really bad right now. I check the active players list and all I see is Blue and Gold. Its ugly out there. The Prometheus can hold a lot of weapons but its a slug. I don't know if there are people out there who can effectively dog fight in a Prometheus or not... I am sure there are but I have a ways to go before I can say that I can push a heavy to its limits. Still looks cool though.

No matter what happens we Serco will do our best to retain our honor. If we stay the underdog... well, at least we are the underdog and thats something to hang your flight suit on. Serco to the death!

Apr 22, 2003 Renegade ++RIP++ link
Captain

In my opinion, your ship will become the best one after a certain while, especially when frigates and so on will come out, it will be the only one wo can effectively take out those in oposition to a valkyrie. But naturelly , that is just my thought.

Valkyrie used to take out prometheus, promethrus for takling out frigate and frigate for taking out valkyrie and with this the circle is round :D

cheers
Apr 22, 2003 SirCamps link
Though Neutral, I must say the Prometheus is being cut short. However, once turrets are 360º, it will be pretty formidable. I would suggest giving it either a special battery or multiple ones (Serco are the scientists, correct?). Beam weapons available exclusively for red would help.


On an unrelated subject, would it help to require every account to choose a nation and "stick wih it?" For instance, Scuba Steve and Furball traded nations (Scuba to Neutral, Furball to Itani) to trade so they wouldn't be shot by the aces on the other team. When ships can be bought/sold to each player, that can be abused again. Maybe a "lock" would be good? Or minimum time on each team? Or you're stuck with your race until the next wipe?
Apr 22, 2003 Renegade ++RIP++ link
nope, Itani are the scientists

I thought :D

cheers
Apr 22, 2003 dragos link
the red special ship is severly lacking in weapons. if i remember correctly(not saying i do) if its an armored transport/bomber, wouldnt it have 2 of each port?

granted, its hull points are high, but with its manuver, its a sitting duck anyway.

and fur, i cant believe im saying this but, itd be better for the community and game if you stuck around

/me runs off to wash his hands after typing that
Apr 22, 2003 furball link
LMAO Yes Dragos I know... I about had a heart attack to hear that you had agreed with me about 3.2.0! :) However, I am STILL here in 3.2.1. :D And I'm LOVING IT... MUHAHAHAHAH