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Medals (level x type)
Could the level 1,2,3 medaltypes get altered in this way that if you have the level 2 one, it doesn't show the level 1? Since well level 2 kinda inherently means that you already have access to level 1
Re: Renegade ++RIP++
> Could the level 1,2,3 medaltypes get altered in this way that if you have the
> level 2 one, it doesn't show the level 1? Since well level 2 kinda inherently
> means that you already have access to level 1
This suggestion has already been discussed in the thread "Make more medals to get..." ( see http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/9626#112308 ).
The problem with this idea is that players who just want to maximize the number of medals they can see on-screen will then just try to earn many low-level medals in different categories, rather than specializing in a few categories. There probably shouldn't be any penalty for specializing.
As I have already suggested there, why not add minimized versions of the icons for the medals at the top of the "Char Info" screen, on the right side of the rows for the words "Alignment:" and "Accomplishments:"
There is currently a lot of empty space there, and seeing minimized versions of the medals there (in additon to the regular versions below the left side of the character statistics) would eliminate the need to keep scrolling down every time one wants to check one's medals.
-- DekuDekuplex Ornitier
> Could the level 1,2,3 medaltypes get altered in this way that if you have the
> level 2 one, it doesn't show the level 1? Since well level 2 kinda inherently
> means that you already have access to level 1
This suggestion has already been discussed in the thread "Make more medals to get..." ( see http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/9626#112308 ).
The problem with this idea is that players who just want to maximize the number of medals they can see on-screen will then just try to earn many low-level medals in different categories, rather than specializing in a few categories. There probably shouldn't be any penalty for specializing.
As I have already suggested there, why not add minimized versions of the icons for the medals at the top of the "Char Info" screen, on the right side of the rows for the words "Alignment:" and "Accomplishments:"
There is currently a lot of empty space there, and seeing minimized versions of the medals there (in additon to the regular versions below the left side of the character statistics) would eliminate the need to keep scrolling down every time one wants to check one's medals.
-- DekuDekuplex Ornitier
I don't understand why do you need level 1 and 2 showing, how can you get to level 2 if you never fulfilled level 1?
So why even showing level 1.
Its like in judo or karate, do you see a black belt run around with his white, yellow, orange, green, blue, brown belts sewn on top of his black belt?
just seems silly to me. And this place could be better used to put other medals (which I actually think we don't need... since everybody is a christmasstree already anyway...)
cheers
So why even showing level 1.
Its like in judo or karate, do you see a black belt run around with his white, yellow, orange, green, blue, brown belts sewn on top of his black belt?
just seems silly to me. And this place could be better used to put other medals (which I actually think we don't need... since everybody is a christmasstree already anyway...)
cheers
Eh, but like military medals, we like to show them all off. How about, remove 4 of 5 stars from things, and then etch a 5 on the remaining one?
sur, I just didn't want that you get somethhing like this:
medal mentor1, medal mentor 2, medal mentor 3
If you want to make it:
Medal mentor xxx
I don't mind at all, just not 3 times a medal for something that you actually accomplished already... like medal for 25pks, medal for 100pks. If you have 100 then you hqave the medal for 25 also right?
medal mentor1, medal mentor 2, medal mentor 3
If you want to make it:
Medal mentor xxx
I don't mind at all, just not 3 times a medal for something that you actually accomplished already... like medal for 25pks, medal for 100pks. If you have 100 then you hqave the medal for 25 also right?
Re: Renegade ++RIP++
> I don't understand why do you need level 1 and 2 showing, how can you get to
> level 2 if you never fulfilled level 1?
>
>So why even showing level 1.
Some players prefer just to maximize the number of medals, but it usually takes longer (sometimes much longer) to go from level 1 to 2, and even longer to go from level 2 to 3, than from level 0 to 1.
Suppose I were a player who just wanted to maximize the number of medals, and your suggestion were put into effect. Then I would just opt even more for many level one medals, rather than a few level 3 ones, to optimize my medal-gathering time. It's already harder to go from level 1 to 2 than from level 0 to 1.
Which looks better on the player description screen:
* Level 1 Mentor
* Level 1 Player Killer
* Trader
or just
* Level 3 Mentor
-- DekuDekuplex Ornitier
> I don't understand why do you need level 1 and 2 showing, how can you get to
> level 2 if you never fulfilled level 1?
>
>So why even showing level 1.
Some players prefer just to maximize the number of medals, but it usually takes longer (sometimes much longer) to go from level 1 to 2, and even longer to go from level 2 to 3, than from level 0 to 1.
Suppose I were a player who just wanted to maximize the number of medals, and your suggestion were put into effect. Then I would just opt even more for many level one medals, rather than a few level 3 ones, to optimize my medal-gathering time. It's already harder to go from level 1 to 2 than from level 0 to 1.
Which looks better on the player description screen:
* Level 1 Mentor
* Level 1 Player Killer
* Trader
or just
* Level 3 Mentor
-- DekuDekuplex Ornitier
Thats up to ones own preference,
Mine would be the level 3 mentor..., ofr other people it might be the level 3 killer (makes them look like scary).
but in fact I don't mind. I just don't want to clutter the medalspace with medals while these medals inherently already state htat they contain the previous medal. Can you please give me a logical reason why you want to show that you have level 1 and level 2 if even the smallest child knows that to get level 2 you anyway need level 1... so why bother showing it? I don't see the logic (sorry :(). Just for the sake of adding more medals? If that is the case then I prefer it would not be the case.
Mine would be the level 3 mentor..., ofr other people it might be the level 3 killer (makes them look like scary).
but in fact I don't mind. I just don't want to clutter the medalspace with medals while these medals inherently already state htat they contain the previous medal. Can you please give me a logical reason why you want to show that you have level 1 and level 2 if even the smallest child knows that to get level 2 you anyway need level 1... so why bother showing it? I don't see the logic (sorry :(). Just for the sake of adding more medals? If that is the case then I prefer it would not be the case.
If the level 3 medals looked really really awesome compared to the level 1 medals, more people would want the level 3 ones.
Eureka! This is it. The reason n00bs find the game boring! It's not a lack of missions or anything, it's that the medals don't look "really really awsome"! Waylon, you have new orders. Go design a new WGAF subsystem just for rendering medals, then spend several weeks making super photo-realistic normal-mapped pixel- and vertex-shaded medals. Go forth and bring us baubles. Baubles, I say!
hey rogue... that's sad but true for many games and players!
some people just like baubles... a lot of games don't have any background or skill, but lots of cute things you can collect.
There is also a myth that cute little baubles implies content... not so...
I currently don't mind having multiple medals~ a while ago I didn't even know what many of them meant (100pk for this medal, how many mentor points for that medal), so if I counted how many there were of each "type" of medal, I could get a rough estimate of what level player I'm targeting.
some people just like baubles... a lot of games don't have any background or skill, but lots of cute things you can collect.
There is also a myth that cute little baubles implies content... not so...
I currently don't mind having multiple medals~ a while ago I didn't even know what many of them meant (100pk for this medal, how many mentor points for that medal), so if I counted how many there were of each "type" of medal, I could get a rough estimate of what level player I'm targeting.
Well, there's also this idea of "progression". If you WANT to keep RPG elements, then it becomes difficult when people only recieve advances for a meaningless botting/trading/mining treadmill.
The nice thing about medals is the potential to have very unique ones for certain achievements. And that's a good thing.
Frankly, I wish you could get to know someone a bit better via a player-written bio in each charinfo page, (subject to the same filter system as general chat)
Anything that lets a person branch off and pursue a style of playing, etc... is good
The nice thing about medals is the potential to have very unique ones for certain achievements. And that's a good thing.
Frankly, I wish you could get to know someone a bit better via a player-written bio in each charinfo page, (subject to the same filter system as general chat)
Anything that lets a person branch off and pursue a style of playing, etc... is good
How about having the different levels of the same medal overlap, with the highest level foremost? That way they're all still shown, but it doesn't take much more space than a single medal.
ok, I wouldn't mind that.
hmmmmm, I just had a nifty idea. How about making it so your earned medals are painted onto your ship in various places. I know a prom with all 3 player killer badges shining on the side of it would be a lot scarier than if it had the trade guild medal on it.
I suggested the stacked medals in the other post, and no one even blinked at it. Your all so fickle!
Shape said it best, medals are great for showing achievements, it's just too bad that with the lack of content in VO there really are not that many achievements to be had. Perhaps with the next update and the new hive ai there might be more opertunities to create new and interesting medals.
Renegade is correct that there is no reason that if you have a higher level that you could simply not display the lower, but the stacked and progressively developing medal is the best of all. Just look at the Stanly Cup and what it was when it started out.
Shape said it best, medals are great for showing achievements, it's just too bad that with the lack of content in VO there really are not that many achievements to be had. Perhaps with the next update and the new hive ai there might be more opertunities to create new and interesting medals.
Renegade is correct that there is no reason that if you have a higher level that you could simply not display the lower, but the stacked and progressively developing medal is the best of all. Just look at the Stanly Cup and what it was when it started out.