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Bot experience rewards unbalanced

Oct 21, 2004 CrippledPidgeon link
I've noticed that a couple of the bots from the previous betas have not had the experience given upon killing them have not been adjusted. The Fennus-18 Guardian being a notable example. In the Advanced Mission, the Fennus-18 is considered a more difficult target than the Artemis Collector (the Artemis Collector drops off the list first), but the Fennus only gives 75 experience when the Artemis gives 100. All of the other guardians give more than the Fennus (okay, don't quote me on the Apu-5 or the Apu-17, but I think that at least the 17 gives more than 75 experience). I think that the Fennus' reward should be raised to at least 150, seeing as (at least in Serco space), the Fennus is often paired with the Artemis, or one of the lower assaults. The Fennus is most definitely a tougher customer than the Artemis, as it has stronger armor, and its weapons are stronger, so why does it give less experience?

On a slightly related note, why is Scrap Metal worth more than Premium Ferric Ore? I get more money and more experience for killing Artemis Collectors than I do for killing Fennus-18 Guardians (and the A-47 Assault, if I remember correctly), yet the Artemis is a far easier bot to kill.
Oct 21, 2004 roguelazer link
Apu-5 gives 55xp.
Oct 22, 2004 Phaserlight link
I think the Artemis bot xp reward oughta be toned down a little... say to 80xp. They go down pretty easily.
Oct 22, 2004 Durgia link
"On a slightly related note, why is Scrap Metal worth more than Premium Ferric Ore?"

Dynamic Economy- more you sell the worse the price is. More people are selling Ferric Ore then Scrap Metal, find a station where nobody is selling Ferric Ore and its worth a lot.
Oct 22, 2004 CrippledPidgeon link
None of the Initros stations pay more for PREMIUM Ferric Ore than Scrap Metal. No one makes premium ores, so technically it should sell high anywhere. Well before the last two updates, Premium Ferric Ore was worth somewhere between 1000 and 500 cr (I can't quite remember), and Scrap Metal was usually worth between 450-350 cr. Now, Scrap Metal tends to be between 450-350, and Premium Ferric Ore is worth between 400-300. I understand that prices need to be adjusted to slow the money flow, but I personally think that the devs just forgot to adjust the Scrap Metal base price.
Oct 27, 2004 Tashazar link
I think the bots dont give enough xp and at this rate It will take me a month to hit level 4 having to kill 1 and then return to base for ammo This is very ageravating .
Oct 27, 2004 Phaserlight link
" think the bots dont give enough xp and at this rate It will take me a month to hit level 4"

When there's only 10 levels in the game, that pace sounds just about right.

However, I think you should be able to hit level 4 a lot quicker than that. Have you tried going after Arklan Guardians? 500 xp a pop. Or what about Axia Assaults? 800 xp each. Kill a few of those and you should level before you know it.
Oct 27, 2004 furball link
You have to be doing something VERY VERY wrong then Tashazar. I'm able to get to 3/4/2/2 in about oh MAYBE 10 hours of play. Add another hour or two depending on my config and I can be at 4/5/3/2.
Oct 27, 2004 CrippledPidgeon link
See that's my point. Arklan Guardians give 500 xp a pop, Fennus R-18s only give 75. The Fennus R-18s aren't that much worse. They should be giving at least 150 xp because of their high-level weapons and med-heavy armor. Especially since they don't tend to play "sitting duck" like the Artemis Collector.
Oct 27, 2004 Phaserlight link
500 xp is way too much imho. So is 800 xp. That's just an insane amount of xp for a single bot kill, especially when you can take a swarm rag into a sector loaded with Axia assaults and missile spam three of them to death for an easy 2,400 xp before jumping out and reloading.
Oct 27, 2004 Renegade ++RIP++ link
tasha maybe you should try to kill them with energybased weapons ?

or only use the ammobased one as the finishing touch to get the heavy licence xp in case that you want to get heavy weapon xp for the kill.

cheers
Oct 27, 2004 Sputnik66 link
"I understand that prices need to be adjusted to slow the money flow"

we may be going on something else here, if the prices were high (a maud is 11k, which i beleive should be 220+k) missile spamming wouldn't be a problem if the prices were raised on everything (swarms should cost around 2k per unit), and money income were tough. people couldn't grab their ragnaroks and spam swarms on higher classed bots to get easy experience points when really they didn't deserve it.

i did find it odd that an artemis collector gave more XP than a aputech 5. a atremis collector isn't very smart and is extremely easy to kill.. and for 100xp points that's basicly a steal. if anything the atremis collector should give 30 or 40xp, instead of 100. i think the fennus guardian should give around the same as a deuvs gaurdian.