I would have hoped for an unclaimed no-mans land between the Serco and itani systems, and this is where lot of the skirmishes can occur...

I'm still confused how people find it so hard to get into enemy space, you can easily warp all over the place to get rid of defbots, and the suicide bots are toothless if you are aware they are onto you...

I made it all the way through NT space (with KoS status and much lag) in a Hog with a heavy battery... Wouldn't try it in anything slower though...

Arotle, I agree and disagree...

I agree that going solo in k.o.s systems is very dificult, difficult to the point where all your focus is simply on movment let alone carrying out some sort of mission.

I disagree, because it is possible, very possible to cary out missions deep into k.o.s systems with only three pilots. Its is possible to Assasinate, Pillage and Spy. As said earlier suicide bots are very dumb.

Put together an assult team 2 who are k.o.s and needn't worry about faction hits and a non k.o.s player for your eyes.

Its hard but its not impossible, Agian solo action in a systems with active guards should be nearly impossible, It forces the aggressors to move in force or not at all.

>>mutorcs<<

I agree with Icarus in that buffer zones/systems would be nice. There's no need for stations in my opinion, just two gates, roids and bots.

The Boarders are very weakly defended already. This part is not just something I can do, but something anyone can easily do. I explained in the other thread how to lose bots, it's also written in one of the hints that pops up. You can't camp stations or wormholes on the border systems, but you can ditch your bots (if you're not paying attention and you fail to actually evade the bots following you then yes you're not going to find that they're still on you) and camp storm sectors or popular botting sectors (in fringe systems). Then you can have all the PvP combat you want without any Def bots bugging you.

Mutorcs, how does multiple people make it easier? (That just means a HELL of a lot more bots, Solo's easier than going in with friends IMO)

Eldrad its just like cap'n of old, the difference being the objective. The same techniques apply.

If you don't believe me try it, you have nothing to loose but a ship and a few credits.

>>mutorcs<<

The difference between now and how it used to be is that a group of bots appear for each KoS person in the sector. Meaning 2 people is 2x the number of bots. Haven't actually checked this since the stress test, but it was true before that.

Quoth Icarus: "I made it all the way through NT space (with KoS status and much lag) in a Hog with a heavy battery... Wouldn't try it in anything slower though..."

There is a huge difference between flying through Itani/Serco space and flying through NT space. That is, NT don't have a lot of WHs with stations on them (In fact, I can only think of one) so flying through there isn't quite as rough.

And the Hog is my new favorite ship...it look like a Viper from the old BattleStar Galactica show =P

Territorial defender with a heavy bat and a Tach is a nice piece of machinery. Aputech 5s and Tyco Assaults are just no match =P

Yes the trick is getting into enemy space when all the wh's leading in are camped by def bots. That part is 10 times harder than bouncing around once inside. In some places the def bots will get to you before you've even turned your ship to point at the wh you want to enter enemy space through. If you have a FC and the bots start off far enough away you can maybe scrape them off against the station or a roid. Good luck letting your non FC battery recharge for the wh jump as well. If not you are dead in about 2 seconds or less.

OT: I like the white hog cause it reminds me of the episode where they find that crazy holy ship with Count Iblis and whoever it was that got lost (Apollo?) came back in that all white uniform and viper. Well I don't really remember it to well it's mostly in my imagination probably, but a white viper seems to be part of it.

okay, I've taken out a few squads of defense/strike bots.

The Aerna seekers are -fun- Anyone who's seen me ingame recently has heard that ;)

to kill them, dodge a roid, turn and fire. one shot kills, okay. you have to be able to aim, and preferrably don't use a gauss, sucks too much energy.

overall, they are cool, perhaps a tad too explosive, but really cool. I love them could do with a few less in the strikeforce though (one at the time please ;)

I'd also like it if the strike-force didn't jump in so bloody close.

suicide bots?

so THATS what killed me.