The current requirements are -/-/-/1/2 and basic miner 2. This is confusing to new players, who compare their licenses to the requirements to the ship's requirements and can't figure out why they can't buy it despite the "Mission Tree required text" being there.

The license requirements should be around -/-/-/5/8.

Trade 5 to match the Trade requirement for a base Behemoth, if purchased at Corvus.
Mining 8 to match the volume of mining needed to actually complete the badge. (Or just bump up the license requirements and ditch the Basic Miner 2 badge requirement? /shrug/)

Assuming those requirements are approximately in-line with what is needed to get Basic Miner 2 in the first place, I don't have any problem with that.

But, I will say that this is a symptom of a much-larger problem around it being "unclear how to gain access to content", which needs to be solved, and not just for this one ship. That is a next-gen UI/UX goal, fwiw.

Assuming those requirements are approximately in-line with what is needed to get Basic Miner 2 in the first place, I don't have any problem with that.

Right. 15 000 aquean ore is 60 000 mining exp so you'd be around Mining level 7 minimum if you only mined aquean. So realistically their mining license will be higher

To address the bigger problem with unclear requirements, perhaps just put something like "Basic Miner 2 Badge required for purchase" in the purchase window, and so forth for the rest of the badge related equipment like HD mining beams, MPosi, Plasma Annihilator, etc.. Then it would be clear what's required.

perhaps just put something like "Basic Miner 2 Badge required for purchase" in the purchase window

I mean, I agree, but we have to really do a full rework of the entire UI, and make the requirement something that is consistent and easily seen, regardless of whether it's a badge, or credits, or storage, or crystal, or mission, or faction standing, or whatever else.

This came up recently, in the context of the "Mission Tree Required" being incorrect. But, seemingly that is not actually part of the description, there's another system doing that, which is maybe not working accurately.

Anyway, I haven't fully investigated this issue yet, but we'll have to check it out.

Bumping this because it came up in 100 and caused a minor argument

+1

ya couldnt hurt if its as simple as editing table data, it definitely comes up in conversation

Fixing this properly, along with other ambiguous cases, requires updating a system that pulls together data programmatically. It isn't some simple database change.

This is not the only situation that has this problem, although it's one of the more common cases. New players are confused by basically anything that has an associated mission requirement.

Fixing this properly is not likely to happen any time soon so why not just alter the description of the most often confused items

Fixing this properly is not likely to happen any time soon..

That's unncessarily pessimistic.

..so why not just alter the description of the most often confused items

I already answered that above back on May 18th. It is not part of the description.

It is a programmatic system that automatically modifies what is displayed to you, based on detected parameters. The system itself has to be changed.

I get that you guys find this frustrating, but it is not as simple as you want it to be.

I get that you guys find this frustrating, but it is not as simple as you want it to be.

What would the process be to change the license requirements? I was typing under the (now obviously misguided) assumption that changing the license requirements for ships and weapons would be like editing a table with the license data.