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Furies end your standing
If anyone mage furies aggo pos standing defense don't work, furies need rework in general thou
WAT?
I think it's half bug report and half suggestion. Both parts, of course, severely lacking it helpful details.
Clarification on what I think is being described in the OP:
Furies AI has a hair trigger that includes being rammed or even slightly scratched by someone else. As long as some damage is registered and you see the red flashing, it's enough for the Furies to attack whoever rammed you. However, the same ramming does not trigger a kill-without-standing-loss status in your favor. And while the furies are not grouped with you and not even in the same faction, their actions cause standing loss to you. Being non-nation NPCs also allows them to fire in NFZs and damage people of your own nation in Capitol stations.
The phenomenon described above is frequently used to troll anyone using furies in nation space and tank their standing. However, I don't see a situation where it can be easily fixed. Adding kill-without-standing-loss status for ramming is clearly even more abusable. Separating the furies' actions from the owner's factional standings would again be highly abusable. Removing the furies' hair trigger without adding an attack command would also make them significantly more useless than they already are.
Furies AI has a hair trigger that includes being rammed or even slightly scratched by someone else. As long as some damage is registered and you see the red flashing, it's enough for the Furies to attack whoever rammed you. However, the same ramming does not trigger a kill-without-standing-loss status in your favor. And while the furies are not grouped with you and not even in the same faction, their actions cause standing loss to you. Being non-nation NPCs also allows them to fire in NFZs and damage people of your own nation in Capitol stations.
The phenomenon described above is frequently used to troll anyone using furies in nation space and tank their standing. However, I don't see a situation where it can be easily fixed. Adding kill-without-standing-loss status for ramming is clearly even more abusable. Separating the furies' actions from the owner's factional standings would again be highly abusable. Removing the furies' hair trigger without adding an attack command would also make them significantly more useless than they already are.
User above made it clear, yeah you can't fix thing with ramming furies to troll peoples that easy, but I guess you can made it pos defended, so i don't loose almost 1000 standing next time
Rework furies is big topic - ai bugs fixes(they often stuck or don't jump in ions), general changes: add them to your group(so they don't eat your teammates next time), made them part of inventory(you can launch them from station or capship) or at least add mission for launch them in most stations(fly to verasi c4 each time one of them die in ion or because they try attack some randomly rammed convoy), it's just few first thing come to mind if I think about that
Being non-nation NPCs also allows them to fire in NFZs and damage people of your own nation in Capitol stations.
This is incorrect. Stygian Furie can not fire in the NFZ. They used to be able to, but this was changed in Vendetta 1.8.371 (2016)
I just tested it for you here (i caused collision damage in the nfz, then left the nfz, the furies attacked, and the moment i got back into the nfz they stopped) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOYcl5bg9EU
This is incorrect. Stygian Furie can not fire in the NFZ. They used to be able to, but this was changed in Vendetta 1.8.371 (2016)
I just tested it for you here (i caused collision damage in the nfz, then left the nfz, the furies attacked, and the moment i got back into the nfz they stopped) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOYcl5bg9EU
In my situation it was on wh, good to know thou