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Replace IBG with a bomber

Mar 02, 2022 Sid123 link
Currently the Serco have a heavy ship (Prometheus) and a light ship (Serco Vulture Guardian). In contrast, the Itani have 2 light ships, the Valkyrie and the Itani Border Guardian Centurion. A very simple argument is that this doesn't match up. I'm not saying it's biased to either side. But I do feel the Itani need to have a heavy/bomber clss ship.
Since the Ragnarok currently has no variants, I suggest the Itani Ragnarok Protector. Stats:

3 large ports
16000 units Armor
6 cu cargo hold
Mass: 14500 kg
Thrust: 500 N
Turbo Thrust: 600N
Top turbo speed: 190 m/s
Spin Torque: 10.5 Nm

Above ship will require a high heavy weapons license...lets say 9. Designed to be a bomber and a heavy fighter to match the Proms Armor with raw firepower.

The reason for this suggestion, as said above, is simple. The Itani don't have a private heavy ship. They aren't unbalanced, but it doesn't make sense that they wouldn't have a special bomber ship.
Mar 02, 2022 aaronund link
-1
Mar 02, 2022 greenwall link
+1 (again)
Mar 02, 2022 Lord~spidey link
No touch. Bad!
Mar 02, 2022 We all float link
-1 doesn't really match the Itani lore (also, the rag has three variants. also your stats are all over the place. They don't look close to a top tier ship with the exception of 3 LP's which only a moth should have)
Mar 02, 2022 Undeniable link
-1
Mar 02, 2022 Whistler link
If they are not currently unbalanced, they are currently balanced. Would we then need another suggestion to add or subtract a light ship in order to rebalance?

I think it is desirable to have nations that are different and balanced so that people can choose according to their play style as well as the lore. Otherwise, it's just the same thing for each nation with a thin veneer of difference.
Mar 02, 2022 demnicat link
+.5 (only because BHM2 is a pain to grind) uhhh a make shift BHM2?
Mar 02, 2022 Sid123 link
We all float I'm talking about factional variants. The MKll and MKlll aren't factional variants. And yes, my stats are probably all over the place since I haven't really feel figured out how some of them work.a And there is no reason why only a moth should have 3 large ports. Why can't a rag have it?

The Valk-IRP combo and the Prom-SVG combo still have lots of differences. The IRP still has lower Armor than even the prom basic, and less agile. They both have their own niche. So I don't think it makes the nations too similar.
Mar 02, 2022 demnicat link
@Sid123 what is the BHM2 used for in a capital combat situation?... bombing... 3 large ports is already extremely Overpowered thus is why the BHM2 is 100k(?) mine AND sold ore which is a pain to do already
if this suggestion goes thru then i can get on a itani alt and not have to worry about getting a BHM2. And bomb a levi as if it was a BHM2 but with better stats.
Mar 03, 2022 We all float link
You should read a couple threads with similar suggestions:

Give Serco new ragnarok Re: Balancing Deneb


BioCom Ragnarok Rhino Variant

Then recalculate your stats, and repost the thread.
Mar 03, 2022 incarnate link
A very simple argument is that this doesn't match up.

The nations are not supposed to all "match up". Honestly, if we had had a larger budget, there would probably have been more drastic differences.
Mar 05, 2022 biretak link
lets give corvus an IBG with infinite turbo. win win. Luxen will explain why. He's good at that.
Mar 05, 2022 Sid123 link
I made a suggestion for Corvus knockoffs of the national military ships too. That thread died out.
Mar 05, 2022 csgno1 link
-1 Don't take away my IBG.
Mar 07, 2022 biretak link
Harpo, not take it away, just infinite turbo at Corvus. It will be a great +1