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FIX THE KEY SYSTEM. PLEASE.

Jan 26, 2021 greenwall link
I have over 600 keys.

75% of these keys are inactive and will never be used again.

In order to delete a single key, the game requires that I type in the full name of the key. If I want to delete 500 keys, I have to do this 500 times. I'm sorry but these are keys, not passwords or checking account numbers.

This is TERRIBLE design.

What's more, this has been around for years now, and it's been KNOWN that it's been a problem. And the longer it goes unfixed, the longer the key inventories grow and the more frustrated we all get. I can understand this as an early design... but to let it linger and fester this long unfixed? Come on.

Now, maybe some people have written their own custom plugins that handle this. I don't have them, and I shouldn't have to have them.

On top of this, if I want to use an inactive key when I take a station, I have to scroll through an insanely long list which is sorted first by active/inactive and then by KEY ID, but NOT BY NAME? Why wouldn't it be sorted by name?

So please, at the very least:

-Make it eaiser to delete keys.
-Make multiple/bulk key deletions possible.
-Offer sort options for the key list based on key name.
-Alternatively make the warning a "do not show this again" option. Once is nice, every time is f*ing crazy.
Jan 26, 2021 draugath link
This doesn't fix the underlying problem, but there are two plugins related to deleting keys that have been publicly available since 2013.

http://www.voupr.com/plugin.php?name=2414422
http://www.voupr.com/plugin.php?name=dkautofill
Jan 26, 2021 incarnate link
Yup, we will. We have made a few improvements, but not reworked the whole system.

It wasn't initially expected that people would use keys the way they did, or generate them in such quantities.

But, as always, things take relative priority. This is a frustrating inconvenience for heavily active, veteran players who refuse to use plugins to mitigate the issue.

That's a lower priority than, say, the game crashing frequently on Windows, or many Mac users being practically unable to play at all.

Anyway, it's useful to have the "bump" on specific feedback and concerns, but maybe drop the ranty frustrated attitude, that does nothing to elevate the priority of your request.
Jan 26, 2021 NC-Crusader link
One thing I have found that speeds up the "delete" process without a Plugin is to change the name of the key to a one letter name, then you click and it goes back to your list. At this point you just click on that single letter key and delete it. It is still a long process with a lot of keys, but it is faster than typing in the complete name and then delete, if you spelled everything in the name exactly right. I would take on the task at about 25 or so per session and eventually you will have them all gone.
Jan 27, 2021 greenwall link
This is a frustrating inconvenience for heavily active, veteran players


eh, I suppose you are right...in that light I can see why it's a non priority. But I still don't like that I have to use a plugin to solve problem with the game.
Jan 27, 2021 greenwall link
Thanks TheRedSpy -- your plugin deleted some 475 keys.
Apr 08, 2021 incarnate link
Improvements made in VO 1.8.549.

Hopefully they're helpful. I did not do much oversight on this change, I just let Ray add some new controls. The UI is planned to be generally "redone" before long.