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TRIPS cool down time

Nov 09, 2018 peytros link
Currently when you view the TRIPS mission it doesn’t tell you the price for resetting your faction standing (it’s 20 million) so I accepted the mission and realized I didn’t have 20 million and clicked the “no thank you” option to not pay and was given a seven day cool down timer. I think the cool down timer should only come into effect if you actually pay the money and “complete the mission” clicking “no thanks” isn’t actually changing your faction status so it makes no sense to give you a cool down timer.
Nov 10, 2018 rkerst link
+1 to delete this mission. There are other methods, albeit lengthy, for recovering faction standing.
Nov 11, 2018 GiantChook link
I concur on deleting the mission. There are so many other options to mend standing that the mission seems superfluous.
Nov 11, 2018 peytros link
There’s not really “many” other options guys, for a non major faction you basically just run 3-500 escort missions to repair you standing to “disliked”. Please note this mission doesn’t effect standings with it itani/Serco/uit. Also I would like to point out this mission has been in the game for a decade or more if I recall correctly.
Nov 11, 2018 NC-Crusader link
I am not in favor of any "quick fix" mission to repair standings on ANY Faction, Minor or Major. If there is to be such a mission it should be VERY COSTLY. 20 mil to fix standings that should not have happened in the first place is too much of a "slap on the wrist" that does not deter the same thing happening again and again. There are other ways to fix your faction, even though it takes a LOT of effort and time to do.
If there must be the quick fix mission, the price should go way up to like 200 mil for a Minor Faction and 500 mil for the Major ones. This will keep some players from continuing to shoot players, especially new ones, while they are in "Monitored Space". And if there is a "cool down" period between taking missions, let if be more like 3 to 6 MONTHS.
Nov 11, 2018 peytros link
I don’t think you guys are really grasping how much if the game gets cut off once you become hated or KOS with a minor faction. (Actually I feel like a lot of you really don’t understand any of the mechanics of how shooting someone in a monitored sector works) you really can’t station camp someone if you are hated since you can’t dock and have to avoid the strike force, so inconveniencing a player for an hour or so is rather trivial. The cool down timer of 7 days already makes it not feasible to keep killing people in monitored space. Also please note that it is easy for new players to make mistakes with minor factions and it is already prohibitively lengthy to repair standing as the only mission you can do is escorts to the faction you want to repair rep with.

Compare that to repairing rep with major factions. It takes a few hours to sneak into nation space and start killing bots to raise your standing to disliked. It’s pretty unbalanced to have minor faction rep be so hard to recover. And before people chime in about how we should change major faction rep please remember you all benefitted from the current mechanics to make yourself neutral with all major factions.

Tl;dr it’s easier to fix major faction rep than minor faction rep and killing someone in monitored space is a non issue due to strike force and turrets and if you die it sends you far away.
Nov 12, 2018 Aryko link
If said faction has a greyspace station in either latos, Odia or sedina, you can regain faction standings through hive skirmishes.
Nov 12, 2018 peytros link
Once again that only applies to a select number of factions and is more tedious than the methods to grind back nation status as you are waiting for a select mission to spawn. I would like to get back on topic to this specific mission and it’s issue with having a cool doe. Timer when you haven’t paid to complete it. If you guys want to discuss making pvp encounters more difficult or have higher penalties in certain instances please go make your own threads
Nov 12, 2018 Pizzasgood link
+1 OP.
Nov 12, 2018 mrl1213 link
I agree with “+1 to delete this mission”.
If you mess up your standing then you should be required to put in the work to fix it, not buy your way back!
Nov 12, 2018 IronLord link
-1. Most players can simply repair it via bot killing in that factions space. Nation space. But if they choose to spend 20mil for just dislike let them. It's a option. It's not forced.
Nov 13, 2018 Aryko link
Did you guys even read the suggestion? It's about removing the cooldown on the mission when a person choses to not pay and cancel the mission.
Nov 13, 2018 PaKettle link
Its only a bloody week....

-1
Nov 13, 2018 SkinWalker link
-1 to a cool down.
+1 to deleting the mission.

And if you can't camp a station while kos, then you aren't doing it right.
Nov 14, 2018 peytros link
You guys clearly can’t keep a thread on topic and it’s clear that the mechanics of how faction rep work go over most of your heads since there are so many grossly inaccurate posts in here. Sad that this is the current state of affairs but I suppose it’s not surprising now that all the mobile mouth breathers are here. Whistler might as well lock this thread
Nov 14, 2018 Wind Employment link
If you take the mission and it aborts before you pay or cancel the mission, there should be no cool down timer. This seems like a bug if anything, like missions taking cap ship parts before the manufacturing missions were fixed.

Everything else is for a new thread.

+1

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This mission was made by a community member (TheRedSpy) so could probably be fixed by a PCC member too (tested and pushed by the developers of course) Maybe the flag/event that sets off the timer needs to be moved to after the stage where faction is actually fixed. Does anyone know the mission number in the editor?
Nov 14, 2018 Pizzasgood link
IronLord, you're talking about a completely different mission. This is the one for fixing minor-factions, not nations. They have no space within which to bot.
Nov 15, 2018 Barktooth link
+1 OP. I can't count how many times a dumbass NPC has flown directly into my swarms in a skirmish, while I was firing at a hive bot or enemy in Deneb.