The IFF and dock privileges check boxes are redundant and serve only as a tool to troll people by giving them a key that has IFF unchecked. Please make it like the capship keys where you either have a key and have full access to dock and not get shot at, or you don't have a key and you get shot at and can't dock. I can think of no reason you'd ever actually need the IFF/docking privileges selection, other than general asshattery.

+1 , ;P

@lso u owe me 1 billion creds @ inc/ray ;
For not giving us type s/p or capella to manu

-1 If i wish to give you docking rights and want the station defenses to shoot you, that should be my right a station owner. Don't like it? take the station from me. The Joys of a Sandbox game. :-)

+1 i agree it's only purpose is to facilitate trolling. If someone wants a station to shoot at you they should rely on key revocation. At least then you get a notice. Unchecking IFF just makes the station start shooting at people without warning.

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Check your keys. And check them often. If something looks fishy, it probably is. If its on a pirate key, expect to get pirated. No need to nerf the key system due to lack of situational awareness.

I follow that ^
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Nope. Let me expand:

1) Most people have no idea what IFF means. Even if it was labelled "Identify: Friend or Foe" most people would still have no idea what it means or what purpose it serves.

2) I can't think of any situation in which being able to dock while 8 turrets are firing at you is useful, OTHER than to trick people into a false sense of security and then spring the trap on them without any warning.

Now, clearly this is something some people... *looks up*... like to employ because tricking people is their MO. Along with laying mines around M7 docks and provoking newbs to violate NFZ or faction rules and tank their standing. These are all activities that rely upon the inability of another person to detect or prevent an impending risk - and quite often another name for such a thing is an "exploit".

Putting aside the fact that the key system is totally convoluted as a whole, I don't think it's fair to consider constantly opening up the PDA, going to the key tab, paging down to wherever your key is and seeing if the IFF is on before you enter the range of turrets in [and/or while you are in transit through] a conquerable station as a level of reasonable "situational awareness".

Thus, the IFF box only serves as a means to abuse other players and shouldn't be part of the game.

If a player is to lazy to know what key the station is on and whether or not they have it and what the settings are then **** them for being lazy. There is already too much assumed safety and carebearism in the game. If you don't trust the key take the station. Stop being mindless widget moving zombies.

I have like 18,349 keys and it would be a full time job to go and delete them, not to mention sift through them and see which are the active ones. It's not laziness to have to sort through that shit when the devs haven't provided a better way of managing them.

And regardless of that, the only purpose IFF serves is to **** with other players without their knowing. It literally serves no other purpose and should be removed.

-1. Tricking people is valid gameplay. If you own a station, you should be allowed to use its turrets to ambush people. This is no different than telling them that you'll guard them while they haul cargo, then shooting them in the back. The sound of impacts on the hull is all the warning anyone is entitled to.

One other little thing. The conq stations are in grey space. Remember the warning that pops up on your HUD when you leave nation space for grey space: " Do not expect to survive"

+1 until they add the option to have nation turrets fire at u for no reason

Blazzy, nation turrets are in safe(ish) monitored nation space. The conq stations are unmonitored, unregulated grey space. What we as owners do with them, while we control them, is up to us as owners.

Like i said we need more random trolls or take this away 😉

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As stated by others, conq stations are in grey, and we ought not pander to ignorance or laziness.

We do need a better method of identifying active keys, but altering the key options themselves would be a step in the wrong direction I feel.

Nobody has successfully explained how not constantly checking IFF status is lazy. It's an obscure setting buried deep within the UI that can be activated and deactivated without any notice whatsoever.

If the IFF option is to be retained, players should at the very least see when it's status is changed via a notification.

IDGAF if it's greyspace, people shouldn't have a status change occur without notification. It should be no different than faction status changes -- because that is effectively what it is.

As much as i'd just say leave it as-is, greenwall has a valid point. of course, then there will have to be a way to prevent key spam too.

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I can think of no reason you'd ever actually need the IFF/docking privileges selection, other than general asshattery.

Don't dictate how people should play the game. Some people would like to roleplay a mean douche - let them. It's little things like this that facilitate their gameplay and sets them apart from what you would call the "good guys."

If i wish to give you docking rights and want the station defenses to shoot you, that should be my right a station owner. Don't like it? take the station from me. The Joys of a Sandbox game. :-)

Well said.

It's an obscure setting buried deep within the UI that can be activated and deactivated without any notice whatsoever.

If it's so easy and effortless to activate and deactivate, why are you complaining about it? Why force the devs to do tedious work "improving" it if it's already easy and effortless for you to check? You appear to expect that everything should be handed to you on a silver platter at others' expense. What the hell is wrong with you?

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This is greyspace. Figure it out. or go home. It's not exactly like its rocket-surgery.