With the implementation of npc pirates, two things come to mind:

1. These pirates will interfere with player pirates.

2. This is the grey space pirate faction we have been waiting for.

The suggestion is simple:

Allow tri-KOS pirates to formally drop national faction to become grey and be neutral with the new grey space pirates. They could then repair at the pirate capital ship and open up new quest lines specifically tailored to this new faction.

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Home nation KOS should be enough! But meh, doubt this will happen.

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I am really not sure about this either way...

everyone seems to want tri KoS benefits,but why though. How would this update be enjoyable to those players? another more applicable idea that comes to mind is being able to recruit a few NPC as your "bodyguards",sort of like the furie missions. It could have its own tree as well. this also applys to the fact that the furies are relatively pointless. i've only used them once in 2 years. this should have a roughly 200k payment per every NPC. that way noobs couldnt just use NPC's as if that would help them at all. this could only apply to a player that identifys as a pirate(through a tree of course..) that would make them KoS with some of the grey factions such as Orion and Ineubis. I would like to have it only available to Corvus POS players. Alot of demands for a thing should make it kind of OP,imo.

Just another drug induced idea/rant from Johnny.

EDIT: I may even tinker with the PCC stuff if i have the time,to make yhis possible.

Johnny you can already do that with the Orion Squadron mission

+1 But i'm with yoda on this. Home nation KOS should be enough.

An entire group of mission trees should open once you go home nation kos (and not just hate, as -601 should not be enough to open that tree). Instead of rouge queens, you should be helping npc rats clear connie of escorts before they fly in and take out the connie. etc etc

And the farther into the tree you go, the harder it should be to regain home nation faction. I won't say irreversible, because everyone has a price, but your deeds should be known far and wide. Simple botting should not be enough. Make the negative side go less than -1000. Say -10000 or some other arbitrary negative number. That is the kind of badge I want to wear.

yes but doesnt the orion mission give you Anti-pirates or something? i haven't bothered to do that tree.

there is a piracy mission tree that could have this "hire pirate NPCs" thing unlocked, but instead of docking to hire, perhaps you just /msg them "Hire" and then pay them a randomly selected amount (perhaps based on either number of hires in the past week or random based on skill level of pirate?). Also, Home KOS should lock out the orion squad hire mission.

-1 with the same reason that has been discussed over and over (just read faille's arguments, ty)

I think the argument was rather about the unaligned status requiring tri KOS or Native KOS.
NPC pirates should have a Clan specific faction not only just being "unaligned".
Faction could be gain with a specific Clan . Clan Faction between different pirate clans could be mutually exclusive.
The condition for gaining faction with a pirate clan should be dependent on pilot actions and should have a impact on his standing with other factions and not only the 3 main factions.
Getting Admired with pirate clan should definitely have a "hate" impact somewhere depending on the Pirate Clan (un)affiliation.
The pirate clan faction should have more than one mutual exclusive faction and the exclusivity should be at least partially dynamic.

I am not opposed to having some content related to being native KoS or tri-KoS, I am opposed to rewarding KoS standings with the nations or sub-factions.

Undertaking missions for these new NPC-rats is cool, and I can see where poor national standings could be a prerequisite. However, I suggest that instead if rewarding KoS standing with access to NPC rat missions, only neutral or lower native/national standings be required for access to missions for them, and instead, these rats have their own factional standing that is mutually exclusive with national standings, so as one gains standing with the rats, they lose it with the 3 major nations (and to a lessor degree, possibly even the sub-factions other than Corvus, who of course do not care).

If this could be combined with the previously mentioned idea of clans within the NPC pirates that would be cool too.

See Faille I kind of get it. You want a true neutral position that you can take, but dude, this is never going to happen.

No matter which stance you take this game is going to kill you. Even if it just me un-winding from work and making drama. It is what I love about VO, there really is no true neutral. Sorry "babes" but never going to happen :).

I'm not sure you read my post fully, Yoda. I'm not objecting to the general concept of associating poor national standing with the NPC rats. I was suggesting adjusting the initial concept so the KoS becomes a consequence, rather than a reward, as I believe it should be. I do agree that these rats would not trust someone with high national standing, but requiring full KoS seems extreme, hence the suggestion that neutral or worse be required, at least with ones native nation.

Nothing to do with having a "true neutral" position.

+1 for the OP. Although home nation KOS would be ok also, per Yoda's suggestion.

If the devs actually implement this, (which I doubt) I'll sub for 3 years. More than likely I'll just probably miss the free vet holiday season again, and throw darts at my TGFT dart board. (Well, it's actually labeled care bears, but whatever.)

And.. that was my contribution for the month.

-1 all pirates must die

1+ Add this feature and I'll reveal my TGFT alts for all to see!